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  #2602310 11-Nov-2020 23:28
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neb:
Fred99:

 

People on forums are far more likely to respond if they've got proof you're wrong, than they are to congratulate you by affirming when you're right.  This quirk of human nature is an undeniable fact.

 

Formalised in the dictum "The way to get information on the Internet isn't to post a question but to post the wrong answer".

 

It isn't a "dictum" because the "authority" credited with creating it calls it a "misquote that disproves itself by propagating through the internet".  

 

Anyway, my head hurts.

 

The objections to the device pictured being a cable being lifted/tensioned and instead some obscure way to pluck pumpkins, rocks, or whatever are wrong.  The wire is way too thin for any serious lifting, pumpkins can be lifted into a cart by hand.

 

The gentleman in fancy clothing clearly owns property,  The poles in the background parallel with the road are relevant because they indicate that power and/or telephone lines exist at the time and place where the photo was taken.  The 90 degree angle to the poles on the new cable being installed is because he's having electricity or a telephone installed to his house.  He's wealthy, evidence being that he's well dressed and that he was able to commission a photographer to document the great occasion of having a new-fangled utility commissioned, and wanted to share this news with friends and family, personal photo postcards were popular at the time.  His house is not in view because wealthy landowners built homesteads set well back from the road, lest common folks and other riff-raff got too close.  The horse was called Trigger.  Case closed.




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  #2602350 12-Nov-2020 07:37
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I think that he's unlikely to be a landowner because he is focusing on a machine which most landowners couldn't care less about.

 

He's more likely to be an engineer. They often appear in photos of machines and public or private works.


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  #2602353 12-Nov-2020 07:42
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I think its erecting a circus tent. The cable is thin, the two stays supporting the vertical shaft are thin, I think its lifting the tent pole and canvas to vertical.




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  #2602419 12-Nov-2020 09:32
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Fred99:

 

MikeAqua:

 

My issue with the pole lifting/line tensioning theory is the pole or line being pulled is a long way out in that paddock.  I'm basing that on the height above the paddock of the A frame. the angle of the cable and the stays which are presumably parallel to the direction of the load.  So if it is a power line, it's running 90 degree to the poles visible in the picture.

 

 

Like this?

 

 

Ummmm... the key feature of a *pole* is not present in the OP, so your image is almost completely, but not totally, unlike that.

 

And surely you would plant the pole first, so that you wouldn't need an A-frame to pull the wire to it.

 

But perhaps it is for erecting a pole... dig a hole, place the pole with one end adjacent to the hole, attach wire to the far end and pull via an A-frame. Have a burly bloke  or two at the hole to (a) stop the pole from sliding and (b) later stop the whole works from rotating.

 

Erecting a pole wouldn't take very long, after which point they all move down the road to the next pole location.

 

 


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  #2602426 12-Nov-2020 09:46
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You don't pull the wire and tie it off to each pole.

 

Putting up poles was near effortless - they used balsa trunks and teams of trained wombats to dig the holes.


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  #2603603 14-Nov-2020 08:21
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It's official - it's a power pole erecting machine.

 

 

Franklin Electric Power Board erected their first pole Oct 2, 1925.





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  #2603606 14-Nov-2020 08:33
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Variations of the A-arm - or 'Derrick' pole raiser were used all over the world until the 1940's.
The two 'pole pikes' being used as props gave it away.

 

 


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  #2603608 14-Nov-2020 08:38
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I could have used it on Wednesday. It took me about 3 hours to remove a broken fence post from an awkward spot. All the while thinking something like that would have made it easier.

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  #2603646 14-Nov-2020 10:45
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@bung   a carjack is pretty handy for that job.





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  #2603653 14-Nov-2020 11:21
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I'm familiar with most methods, it just wasn't shifting with reasonable force. Turns out the 12-15 year old H4 post had a tree root passing through it so I had to dig down far enough to cut it free.

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  #2603694 14-Nov-2020 13:25
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@kiwifidget now we have completed the over-analysis ; ) I'd be keen to see a high res scan of that one if there is somewhere to upload it. It's amazing all the details which pop out from scans of old photos.

 
 
 
 

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  #2603719 14-Nov-2020 14:45
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Sidestep:

 

Variations of the A-arm - or 'Derrick' pole raiser were used all over the world until the 1940's.
The two 'pole pikes' being used as props gave it away.

 

 

 

 

Why is the crane hook attached to the linesman’s neck? Looks dodgy. Wichita?





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  #2603760 14-Nov-2020 16:59
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Good old Cletus was freakishly strong after a lifetime wrestling pigs. It was quicker to hoist him holding the pole than tie fancy hitches.

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  #2604538 16-Nov-2020 08:39
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Fred99:

 

The objections to the device pictured being a cable being lifted/tensioned and instead some obscure way to pluck pumpkins, rocks, or whatever are wrong.  The wire is way too thin for any serious lifting, pumpkins can be lifted into a cart by hand.

 

 

As it's visible, let's assume it's at least 1/4" diameter.  That would give it a breaking strain of something 7,000 lbs (~2,000kg).  That allows a lot of sideways pressure to be put on an object.  It looks very taut, so it's either a short run of cable and/or under quite a lot of load.

 

If the paddock in the background is newly broken in, then it would a make sense to me if they were dragging out logs or cargo nets full of rocks.





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  #2604545 16-Nov-2020 09:06
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MikeAqua:

 

As it's visible, let's assume it's at least 1/4" diameter.

 

 

The wire on the fence behind the well-dressed gentleman is visible, that's presumably # 8, and anyway aliens built stonehenge and the pyramids long before steel was invented.  The former using human labour to make a map so that they could find their way home through outer space, the latter much as modern man sometimes make elaborate memorial burial sites for dead cats, draught horses and sheep dogs.


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