The Grammar, Spelling and Pronunciation Thread!

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#3308567 13-Nov-2024 16:04

People who use 'apart' and 'a part' incorrect. An example would be in "I'm happy to apart of this group", when they mean 'a part'.

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#3308568 13-Nov-2024 16:09

Why am I not subscribed to this discussion?

I'm sure I'd get alot out of it.

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#3308570 13-Nov-2024 16:10

maoriboy:

People who use 'apart' and 'a part' incorrect. An example would be in "I'm happy to apart of this group", when they mean 'a part'.

"Happy to be apart of this group" in fact means the exact opposite of "Happy to be a part of this group". So ... maybe they really mean what they wrote. 😀

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#3308571 13-Nov-2024 16:17

Behodar:

The first general-use spell checker was released more than half a century ago. I'm amazed by the number of publishers that have yet to discover this technology.

Their not good enough to catch all errors through. Put a valid word in the wrong plaice and the simple spelling chucker doesn't no what to do.

I once read a proof copy of a book and it was riddled with typos and other errors to the point it was painful to read. Even writing that way is painful :-)

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#3308572 13-Nov-2024 16:19

A tool that can catch some errors is preferable to catching no errors.

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#3308577 13-Nov-2024 16:25

elpenguino:

Behodar:

The first general-use spell checker was released more than half a century ago. I'm amazed by the number of publishers that have yet to discover this technology.

Their not good enough to catch all errors through. Put a valid word in the wrong plaice and the simple spelling chucker doesn't no what to do.

I once read a proof copy of a book and it was riddled with typos and other errors to the point it was painful to read. Even writing that way is painful :-)

When I was at Uni I ran a Linux box which was the email / web server for the engineering department. I once got an email from someone who wanted to make a web site on it. In 6 attempts to write the word "create" they spelled it wrong 6 different ways.

I also saw a subhead on Stuff earlier this year which made the classic public/pubic typo. It was perfect in context as well ... I had a screenshot of it on the previous work laptop.

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#3308596 13-Nov-2024 16:40

elpenguino:

Their not good enough too catch all arrears through. Put a valid word in the wrong plaice and the simple spelling chucker doesn't no what two do.

FTFY.

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#3308652 13-Nov-2024 16:56

I would not worry about the use of Maori words in New Zealand English. Language is dynamic and belongs to the people who use it, it changes for the current needs.

English is a pidgin Germanic language with Latin, Norse, Norman French, Greek, Hindi/Urdu (and many more) borrowings. It has adapted over the years and will continue to diverge according to the needs of its speakers.

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#3308758 13-Nov-2024 19:53

DMWellington:

Personally I think this thread comes off as rather elitist and "look how much more intelligent I am then someone else".

Remember that there are many reasons for people to not have perfect grammar - less then ideal upbringing, dyslexia, English as a second language are just a few.

Maybe have think about how a thread like this excludes people who aren't as perfect as you and how that might make them feel.

I have been thinking long and (fairly) hard about this. There is a difference between pedantry and precision. Clearly people who have the intelligence and take the trouble to use a language not their own deserve nothing but respect and encouragement. If they make mistakes, we should help them learn the correct usage but never laugh at them.

Native speakers who can’t master their own tongue fall into two categories. Some genuinely suffer from conditions that make things extra difficult. Certainly a little patience and understanding is not out of place. What should not be excused is laziness and indifference when one simply cannot be bothered. Language is important. If you can’t use it correctly you can’t communicate well.

If you can’t spell, get a spell checker. It isn’t rocket science. And if you can’t distinguish there, their and they’re, just remember this: they’re means they are. Their means it belongs to someone (or some thing). There covers just about everything else.

Language clarity matters. You don’t have to get it right all the time. Just show it a little respect.

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#3308862 14-Nov-2024 09:47

What I need to know is how many syllables are in shower ?

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#3308863 14-Nov-2024 09:52

Soarin:

What I need to know is how many syllables are in shower ?

Is that as in someone who exhibits stuff at a show - or something you run around in to get wet?

Show-er v shour?

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#3308866 14-Nov-2024 09:59

maoriboy:

People who use 'apart' and 'a part' incorrect

You win a prize. It should be use 'apart' and 'a part' incorrectly.

[Mod edit (MF): removed Godwin's Law reference]

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#3308881 14-Nov-2024 10:28

eracode:

Soarin:

What I need to know is how many syllables are in shower ?

Is that as in someone who exhibits stuff at a show - or something you run around in to get wet?

Show-er v shour?

A wet shower, like you have a shower for an hour?

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#3308886 14-Nov-2024 10:41

What do you do when asked

"Please apply the software update at the agreed time, and revert when done"

I don't think I'll ever adopt the Indian use of "revert" to mean "get back to me" but it seems like a losing battle

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#3308951 14-Nov-2024 12:18

roobarb:

eracode:

There is something better than that - a grammar Nazi. 😀

Having lived abroad in non-English cultures I am very relaxed about the purpose of language. At the end of the day it is to be understood.

Understanding only works if everyone knows what the words mean. I have also lived in different language cultures. So have many others here. It doesn't give you extra credit.

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