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  #3109469 29-Jul-2023 10:03
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Well....at a loss for words.

 

 

 

 






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  #3109474 29-Jul-2023 10:29
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This just beggars belief. The surface of the sea 40 miles south of Miami is 38.4°C. That's a decent temperature for a spa pool. 





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  #3109475 29-Jul-2023 10:35
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Gurezaemon:

 

This just beggars belief. The surface of the sea 40 miles south of Miami is 38.4°C. That's a decent temperature for a spa pool. 

 

 

And this off the East Coast of Canada...

 


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  #3109864 30-Jul-2023 18:55
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From The Spectator this week:

“Take Norway. It leads the world in the adoption of electric cars, installation of heat pumps and also electricity – 98 per cent of which comes from hydro and other renewables. In those senses it is the country that our government wants us to be. Yet last month the Norwegian government approved an $18 billion investment programme by the state oil company to develop 19 new oil and gas fields. Why? Because it can see that for all the attractions of green energy, oil and gas are going to form a vital part of global energy infrastructure for decades to come. Few countries, after all, have the hydro-electric potential and low population density which allowed Norway to develop those industries long before anyone was talking about climate change. And it is not just energy, either. Hydrocarbons from oil wells are the source of the vast majority of plastics manufactured in the world, as well as fertilisers and many other things.”





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  #3109868 30-Jul-2023 19:17
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The Spectator magazine is hardly a source of impartial information or considered comment on this particular topic.

 

Might as well go straight to the Exxon or Shell PR department for their take.


 
 
 

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  #3109872 30-Jul-2023 19:38
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Pays to focus on the message rather than the messager. It seemed factual to me. Was there something in particular that you objected to? You

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  #3109875 30-Jul-2023 19:50
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A report in a RAG covering an unsubstantiated mistake by one nation of course trumps all the evidence concerning fossil fuels. 


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  #3109877 30-Jul-2023 19:53
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evilengineer: The Spectator magazine is hardly a source of impartial information or considered comment on this particular topic. Might as well go straight to the Exxon or Shell PR department for their take.

Reuters?

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  #3109885 30-Jul-2023 20:28
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Sweden is a better example for a country with high electric vehicle adoption and high standard of living - without Norway's levels of fossil fuel extraction. Not that Sweden is a shining example just a much better example.

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  #3109887 30-Jul-2023 20:34
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On the plus side Norway does have huge investment and development going on in renewables at leading the world levels. A lot of the ha! told you so commentary seems to ignore that.

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  #3109898 30-Jul-2023 21:22
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Sweden does benefit from having nuclear power accounting for approximately 30-35% of Sweden's total electricity production.
The rest being mainly Hydroelectric.  
Having lots of power generation probably helps its industry a lot and there is enough power to export as well.

 

Problem is to afford nice things you do need income and for Norway hydrocarbons finance its support of EVs etc. 
There are Swedish companies involved in Hydrocarbon extraction in the North Sea too.

 

Swedish oil firm confirms massive North Sea find some years back as example.
https://www.thelocal.se/20110930/36460

 

Its all a bit easier when you are a hop skip and jump from a large proportion of earths consumer population.
So you can have all sorts of industries with major foot-pints across EU etc, to broaden out your economy.
IKEA, Volvo and all that. 

 

Last stop before Antartica as we are, not so much, if only Penguins had deep pockets. 


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  #3109914 30-Jul-2023 22:35
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Yes that's mostly correct. Sweden's fields are not nearly as extensive as Norway's.

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  #3109939 31-Jul-2023 07:00
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Some guy snapped a pic while flying over....

 


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