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Topic # 173273 17-May-2015 20:06
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Specifically, are all agents listings co-listed on Trademe? It certainly seems that way, but I really don't want to be missing any houses that come up and are listed elsewhere. 

Obviously some might not, but where would they advertise otherwise? 

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  Reply # 1306801 17-May-2015 20:06
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Hmmmm. Here we go.




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  Reply # 1306833 17-May-2015 20:26
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realestate.co.nz is another option, or propertypress.co.nz. I have occasionally seen listings on these that aren't on TM, but it seems uncommon, and more frequently the reverse is true.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1306839 17-May-2015 20:33
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No, there is no guarantee that every listing will be on trademe.

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  Reply # 1306850 17-May-2015 20:46
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If it's a popular house it will probably never even make it to a website. You need to approach the estate agents and tell them what you're looking for.

TradeMe changed the way it charges real estate agents so it cost them (or the seller really) more, so they are trying to move away from TM as much as they can. 



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  Reply # 1306859 17-May-2015 21:01
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That's interesting to know. I had been planning on getting in touch with an agent or two later this week, perhaps i'll do it early this week.

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  Reply # 1306861 17-May-2015 21:11
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Check the agent's websites also. Pretty much all chains will have sites, and often small agencies have their own sites as well.




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  Reply # 1306870 17-May-2015 21:56
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Many agents now are not using trademe at all, and only using the realestate website, as the agent now has to pay per listing on trademe. . The problem is that the realestate website is poor. Trademe isn't great either, but is better than the realestate website in terms of usability. The realestate website doesn't list private sales, so there is now no single website that lists everything on the market. I use these realestate websites and apps on a daily basis, so 

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  Reply # 1306895 17-May-2015 23:14
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Disrespective: Specifically, are all agents listings co-listed on Trademe? It certainly seems that way, but I really don't want to be missing any houses that come up and are listed elsewhere. 

Obviously some might not, but where would they advertise otherwise? 


I'm selling mine, and it is not on TM but is on the agent's site.





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  Reply # 1306897 17-May-2015 23:43
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From recent dealings with real estate agents, the big players won't advertise on Trade Me (it's a boycott of sorts because of the price increase), but the agents we talked to recommended that we did so because it attracts the most buyers.

However with the market as it stands, as a buyer, you really need to check everywhere for listings and "get in quick" as it were.

realestate.co.nz tends to have most of the listings which have been done through RE agents.

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  Reply # 1306898 18-May-2015 00:08
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ubergeeknz: From recent dealings with real estate agents, the big players won't advertise on Trade Me (it's a boycott of sorts because of the price increase), but the agents we talked to recommended that we did so because it attracts the most buyers.

However with the market as it stands, as a buyer, you really need to check everywhere for listings and "get in quick" as it were.

realestate.co.nz tends to have most of the listings which have been done through RE agents.


When I sold a property via 200 square, I was getting far more hits from trademe than from the real estate website. It was 80% to trademe, 20% to the Realesate website. So I would certainly rather spend more money putting it on trademe, than pumping money into physical advertising, such as the paper.

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  Reply # 1306900 18-May-2015 00:40
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If i'm not wrong, if you ask agent to list on websites such as trademe,realestate...etc, I think there's a small amount of listing fees count toward the agent cost.
I asked my agent list a rental before I think the agent charge me a small amount of listing fees on the bill.
Not too sure, can't remember it's been awhile.

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  Reply # 1306922 18-May-2015 08:45
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I'm trying to sell my house at the moment. When you sign up with an agency, one of the first things you'll discuss is where you want it listed, and there are endless options: realestate.co.nz, open2view, TradeMe, Property Press (website and printed magazine), the real estate agent's own website (and/or magazine), different newspapers, the estate agent's window, etc. There's a cost to each one so people will usually pick the ones they want. So not every house will necessarily be advertised on TradeMe, but I think most vendors are choosing TradeMe as one of the options these days.

We're certainly getting way more page views on TradeMe (1648 since listing 18 days ago, compared to 220 on realestate.co.nz - the other sites don't show views on the page but we get a report once a week). Some of the agents we spoke to seemed to think TradeMe users are more "browsers" rather than serious buyers, but that might just be the agents being a bit old fashioned.

BTW: Anybody want to buy a sunny 4 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom home in a quiet cul-de-sac on the lower slopes of the Hutt Valley's western hills - 20 minute walk to Queensgate, close to motorway and railway station, zoned for good schools, etc.?

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  Reply # 1306946 18-May-2015 09:35
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My parents have just sold their house via Property Brokers in Palmerston North, and as a company they don't recommend listing (and tend not to list) houses on TM. The argument they made to my parents is that, when they have used them in the past, the number of hits just doesn't translate into inspections and sales.  My parents bought this argument (generally they've been really compliant with the agent's requests and ideas - not of a generation to question 'authority'), and so their house was never listed on TM, but I'm assuming the real reason behind Property Brokers' position is more nuanced than that. I also don't think I'd have taken their word on it, and would have listed the property on both - the relative cost of a TM listing versus the sales price of a house is minimal, and I'd just not be willing to take the risk of a lack of exposure from such a primary source.

This is a good illustration to show that TM can't be used as sole source for house hunting - at a minimum one must frequent realestate.co.nz and and TM. Personally, I I prefer the realesate.co,.nz site, and both have pretty usable iPad apps that make hunting and viewing easier. Given the ability to set up email alerts I also haven't found it a big issue to have to use more than one source.

There's also a growing trend for individual agents to have their own websites, which seem to list all properties for their agency, not only ones they are personally mangaging; I see even mortgage brokers seem to scrape listings for their own sites.

Edit: used the wrong real estate company name!

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  Reply # 1306951 18-May-2015 09:46
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no they are not all on trademe as people have said. they are most likely to be one or all of these
- trademe
- realestate.co.nz
- sold before coming on to the market (not auckland lol - they are all auctions)

the other 3 are
- local saturday newspaper
- regional property press
- agent website

usually it's a combination of the top 3, but sometimes you discover gems in the bottom 3 that are not on the top 3




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  Reply # 1306957 18-May-2015 09:49
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I'm in the process of selling our house privately via TM and I see a lot of other houses listed for sale by agents in our area (Miramar) so not convinced of the boycott theory. I'm sure agents may not like the fees TM charge but then I don't like the fee the agent would be charging me either hence the private sale, but that's another thread. As someone who hasn't looked at real estate in the paper in years I think online is the only way to go, and since I've seen many duplications of effort across TM and realestate.co.nz, I just went with TM. 



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