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kingdragonfly

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#207473 27-Dec-2016 20:31
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I thought Trademe didn't permit Nazi stuff anymore. This is NOT my auction.

"Rare SS Nazi German 50 Reichsmark Stamped SS"

Start price $8,000

"SS Totenkopf - Ratibor Division Unique and rare bank note.
I had this listed last year but became seriously ill. I have had this item for many years and purchased this from a military trader, who has a bricks and mortar shop in Ak.
This banknote is in used condition and was stamped by the SS- Totenkopf Infantrie Regiment III. The stamp has the units name with 2 large SS runes in the middle. It says "Ratibor" on it because the unit was stationed in a a city named Ratibor (Racibrz) in present day Poland. The Germans took over this area when it was part of Czechoslovakia and it was given to Poland in 1945.

This ...you can establish for yourself by searching the www.

This is quoted from my purchase data.

These notes were generally destroyed and are about as rare as they come. Pic follows.

I also have 2 UNC Nazi stamps and a coin from another military trader as follows:
MNH A Hitler Head 1942 and Heydrich Death Mask 1943 and an original 1939A 2 Reichspfenning coin made of copper for sale seperately or combined.

I also have a VF Nazi Germany 50 mark 1933 Banknote also."


http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/banknotes/europe-ex-uk/auction-1226634630.htm

Again this may be obvious, but this ain't my auction

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  #1695536 27-Dec-2016 20:31
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Hmmmm. Here we go.





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  #1695566 27-Dec-2016 21:56
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I could never understand why the sale of this stuff is banned. It is history after all, good or bad. Banning it is as bad as denying history in the first place.

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  #1695572 27-Dec-2016 22:22
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plod: I could never understand why the sale of this stuff is banned. It is history after all, good or bad. Banning it is as bad as denying history in the first place.


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  #1695577 27-Dec-2016 22:40
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Agree with Plod.


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  #1695578 27-Dec-2016 22:42
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kingdragonfly: I thought Trademe didn't permit Nazi stuff anymore.

Shrug. Report it and see what happens, then.

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  #1695586 27-Dec-2016 23:19
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?waL s'niwdoG

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  #1695587 27-Dec-2016 23:20
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They'll allow it in certain circumstances.

 

Personally, banning the sale of it makes no sense and is just virtue signalling by TM I think.

 

A Roman gladius may have been used to murder natives, facilitate rapes and keep slaves in line - I am sure they would not ban the sale of one if it ever came up (think of the commission..!). 






 
 
 

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  #1695616 28-Dec-2016 07:09
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1eStar: ?waL s'niwdoG


I guess 1eStar spelled "Godwin's law" backwards, because the thread started with a Nazi reference, as opposed to degraded into Nazi references?

From RationalWiki

"Godwin’s Law (also argumentum ad Nazium, reductio ad Hitlerum,or a Hitler Card) was formulated by the attorney Mike Godwin (former general counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation) in the 1990s and states:

'As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches'"


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  #1695638 28-Dec-2016 08:53
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plod: I could never understand why the sale of this stuff is banned. It is history after all, good or bad. Banning it is as bad as denying history in the first place.

 

 

 

If you can't understand why sale of Nazi memorabilia is banned - then you don't understand history.  You don't have to agree with the ban, but they are well within their rights to restrict sale of anything they choose.  They do choose to ban sale of Nazi memorabilia, gang paraphernalia and human excrement.  Sale of stamps and currency etc is allowed.  It's not unique to TM, Ebay have similar policies.


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  #1695645 28-Dec-2016 09:08
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The problem isn't selling this stuff, it is the morons who use it to symbolise something they think they believe in but don't actually understand. When I see the level of historical misunderstanding many people seem to suffer from, most of which comes from Hollywood fantasy films, I don't think these kinds of bans are such a bad idea. Restrict these artifacts to academic researchers who will see them in the proper context.

 

   





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  #1695646 28-Dec-2016 09:09
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Here is their policy
http://www.trademe.co.nz/help/331/banned-restricted-items#propaganda
Appears currency is generally acceptable to sell.

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  #1695652 28-Dec-2016 09:22
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Godwin's Law, otherwise known as "Monkeys Typing Shakespeare"

 


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  #1695697 28-Dec-2016 10:40
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Rikkitic:

 

The problem isn't selling this stuff, it is the morons who use it to symbolise something they think they believe in but don't actually understand. When I see the level of historical misunderstanding many people seem to suffer from, most of which comes from Hollywood fantasy films, I don't think these kinds of bans are such a bad idea. Restrict these artifacts to academic researchers who will see them in the proper context.

 

   

 

 

 

 

It's perfectly possible that they both believe in it AND understand it.






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  #1695751 28-Dec-2016 11:38
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Possible but not the ones I have seen. Most have no real understanding.

 

 





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  #1695757 28-Dec-2016 11:46
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kingdragonfly:
1eStar: ?waL s'niwdoG


I guess 1eStar spelled "Godwin's law" backwards, because the thread started with a Nazi reference, as opposed to degraded into Nazi references?

From RationalWiki

"Godwin’s Law (also argumentum ad Nazium, reductio ad Hitlerum,or a Hitler Card) was formulated by the attorney Mike Godwin (former general counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation) in the 1990s and states:

'As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches'"

 

In that case Godwins Law doesnt apply as the thread cannot evolve to that, it started on that. I dont believe in it either. There are many other atrocity makers that dont have such laws.


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