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#210451 28-Mar-2017 01:14

some one i know has no passport ( says not going to leave nz) or driver's license ( cant drive because of a medical problem)

but they need some type of government photo id for something

tried 18+ card but no luck

and to young for a super gold card

what can they use ?

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#1749128 28-Mar-2017 02:12

Getting a passport might be the best way to go about it.

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#1749135 28-Mar-2017 05:29

whats wrong with the 18+ card?

what do they need the ID for?

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#1749141 28-Mar-2017 06:56

I'm not sure an 18+ card is accepted every where as a form of ID (Never tried tbh). Looks like ANZ for example you would need an 18+ card and your birth cert to prove ID.

Appears you need a drivers licence, passport or firearms licence to obtain an 18+ card anyway.

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#1749142 28-Mar-2017 07:15

biggal:

some one i know has no passport ( says not going to leave nz) or driver's license ( cant drive because of a medical problem)

but they need some type of government photo id for something

tried 18+ card but no luck

and to young for a super gold card

what can they use ?

To get Super Gold Card you need to have first registered for NZ Super, which requires several levels of ID like passport and birth certificate etc - so looks like lots of Catch 22 here unfortunately.

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#1749144 28-Mar-2017 07:23

The answer will lie with the organization asking for the ID.

As an example Facebook list a range of cards with either name and birth date or photo or 2 copies of other documents like bank statements.

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#1749145 28-Mar-2017 07:24

you can go through a justice of the peace to get a 18+ card . just have to fill out a few forms and know someone who has a passport.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1749147 28-Mar-2017 07:32

Their proposition seems odd.

The most common government photo id's are a passport or a driver's license.

They have nothing now - but need photo id. So get a passport.

Doesn't matter if you don't intend to travel.

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#1749152 28-Mar-2017 07:48

I got an 18+ card recently, you don't need a JP anymore, rules changed in February. And for address verification I'm with Kiwibank and they were the only people I could ask for a letter, instead they just printed an eftpos receipt with my customer info and told me to use that. I think your verifier only needs an 18+ card too, not sure. 18+ isn't government though, it's Hospitality NZ.

RealMe is gov and free, but only for online verification and so far accepted almost nowhere.

So yeah, passport. It sucks that we don't have a cheaper no strings national ID card.

Also some places accept someone with ID swearing they know you and you are who you say you are.

Short of that best you could do is ask whatever it is nicely and present as many forms of ID possible: 18+, birth cert, any marriage certs & childrens birth certs, all your various bills with your name on, expired IDs, student IDs; just take absolutely everything that even remotely proves who you are and hope it's enough.

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#1749154 28-Mar-2017 07:56

PaulBags:

RealMe is gov and free, but only for online verification and so far accepted almost nowhere.

Realme is a great idea stuffed up by politicians.

Govt will spend 100's of millions of dollars on rubbish spending. But, when something that could really be useful comes along the govt knackers it from the start by charging way too much.

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#1749158 28-Mar-2017 08:10

I just checked and a verified realme account can be used to apply for a passport online. Verifying realme takes time though so if you don't already have it dead tree will be faster.

I don't get BNZs realme implimentation: you can open an account with realme, but if you have an existing account you can't set up internet banking with realme.

I've seen some places say they only accept drivers, no mention of even passport. Wouldn't be suprised if gov is charging to verify ID so some are picking the most common database only - but it's discrimination against people who can't drive, and if that's the governments fault that's even worse.

Peer-to-peers lenders get me too, they want to see a drivers over a webcam. Gov must be charging a lot for realme if it's cheaper to hire someone to chat on webcam.

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#1749168 28-Mar-2017 08:48

It's not definitive by any means, but the three types of ID that you can legally use to purchase alcohol are a passport of any origin, an NZ drivers license or an 18+ card.

I'm not sure why they are having an issue obtaining an 18+ card, but as others have said you can obtain a passport for ID purposes. Also worth noting that even if they are unable to drive, a learners drivers license is cheap to obtain and only requires a written exam and the eye test.

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#1749171 28-Mar-2017 08:50

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#1749235 28-Mar-2017 10:33

PaulBags: I got an 18+ card recently, you don't need a JP anymore, rules changed in February. And for address verification I'm with Kiwibank and they were the only people I could ask for a letter, instead they just printed an eftpos receipt with my customer info and told me to use that. I think your verifier only needs an 18+ card too, not sure. 18+ isn't government though, it's Hospitality NZ.

RealMe is gov and free, but only for online verification and so far accepted almost nowhere.

I applied for my 65+ card recently. With a RealMe ID I could do the form online but still had to print it and send it in with notarized copies of all the usual paper ID so even the Gov don't really support it.

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#1749292 28-Mar-2017 11:17

biggal:

some one i know has no passport ( says not going to leave nz) or driver's license ( cant drive because of a medical problem)

Why not just get them to get a learner's license? You don't need to do a practical test, and as long as the medical problem isn't their eyesight, they should be fine (coming from someone who has a family member in a wheelchair who went through this).

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#1749331 28-Mar-2017 12:13

I'd be suprised if learners would be issued to people who should be medically barred, e.g. epilepsy. Being in a wheelchair doesn't prevent you driving, just requires a specialized vehicle that you can drive.

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