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Topic # 223151 15-Sep-2017 12:45

Pretty soon, Amazon will need a forum all of its own.

I saw the item on the TV last night about how Amazon Australia might impact online shopping in NZ.

Has there been any announcement on when AmazonAU kicks off?

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Reply # 1866843 15-Sep-2017 13:06

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Nope , it will be hard to miss when they do announce a commencement date.

It could bAd for us if they try to block Amazon US.

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Reply # 1866873 15-Sep-2017 13:48

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I spoke to somebody last year inside Amazon who was clearly very low down the food chain but did know about their plans (and wouldn't say much!)

One thing that Amazon did want was for Prime to be a AU/NZ benefit with 2 day shipping to both countries. Such an offering makes a lot of sense, and if that does turn out to be their offering it's going to have a massive impact on retail here in NZ.

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Reply # 1866877 15-Sep-2017 14:00

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surfisup1000: It could bAd for us if they try to block Amazon US.

Is there any precedent for that? As far as I'm aware, you can access Amazon UK from the US and so forth.

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Reply # 1866879 15-Sep-2017 14:07

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So far you can order from any geographical amazon store from within the UK without issue, I used to do it all the time... And from here any will serve us... I doubt they would stop that.

Amazon shipping to NZ will put the cat amongst the pigeons for many retailers here in NZ, including mightyape and PBTech!

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Reply # 1866885 15-Sep-2017 14:20

Behodar:

surfisup1000: It could bAd for us if they try to block Amazon US.

Is there any precedent for that? As far as I'm aware, you can access Amazon UK from the US and so forth.

No, just theorising.

There is plenty of precedent for geographical shipping restrictions... It could be quite difficult to tell if some products were restricted because of a new local option or manufacturing restrictions.

eg, I occasionally buy storage off amazon US. After amazon Aus becomes operational (sounds like the death star haha), will the amazon US store start showing 'does not ship to NZ' more frequently?

I'm wondering how much amazon Aus can undercut local suppliers too, after all they will now be subject to the same GST and economies of scale limitations.

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Reply # 1866895 15-Sep-2017 14:36

I'd imagine that Amazon Au will start serving this side of the pacific rim, so hopefully shipping might be cheaper than .com but pricing overall could be interesting. I'd imagine the economies of scale will still exist when you consider the reach from Australia in the sub-Asian and Indian areas.

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Reply # 1866997 15-Sep-2017 16:19

Prime with free shipping to NZ would be awesome, especially with their extra benefits. That'd kill a lot of NZ retailers and online stores. The main reason not to use them would be lack of consumer guarantees act protections.

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Reply # 1867020 15-Sep-2017 17:24

Amazon AU has been around for a little while, as I only found out about it when a work colleague said they brought al their online books from there.

Going to amazon.com.au says the marketplace is coming soon

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Reply # 1867024 15-Sep-2017 17:26

Yep, there's been a Kindle shopfront there for some time, but this thread is about it growing into "full" Amazon (not just Marketplace).

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Reply # 1867048 15-Sep-2017 19:08

kiwifidget:

Pretty soon, Amazon will need a forum all of its own.

I saw the item on the TV last night about how Amazon Australia might impact online shopping in NZ.

Has there been any announcement on when AmazonAU kicks off?

There has been no formal announcement but, if you monitor the media that covers the Aus business market - particularly the retail and property sectors, you would have a pretty good idea. Amazon has been talking to property companies about leasing premises suitable for use as fulfillment centres and they have signed contracts. They have been talking to product manufacturers about carrying their product lines and they have been talking to existing marketplace partners about their taking up positions on the Amazon Australia website. Finally, they have been talking to logistics/shipping companies. Many of these folks have been talking to the press.

They originally targeted August this year but slipped that date when they decided to go after supermarket products as they expanded their US operations into the same area.

They are now targeting November in order to capitalize on the market in the run up to Christmas.

Expect to see a November start out of Australian fulfillment centres with an Amazon Prime offer to both Aus and NZ.

NZ commercial property agents say that Amazon have been looking at fulfillment centres in Auckland and the Waikato. Those will not be opened this year if ever. The warehouse group's recent launch of an Amazon Prime style shipping service is based on their assessment that Amazon will have one or two fulfillment centres up and running here in 2018.

So, not long to wait.

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Reply # 1867052 15-Sep-2017 19:19

surfisup1000: Nope , it will be hard to miss when they do announce a commencement date.

It could bAd for us if they try to block Amazon US.

I think that is just scaremongering as there is no history of Amazon ever having done that in the past. I know that they do block some products from some geos but that seems to be because laws restrict what they can do.

As an example of how well they serve overseas customers, my last major purchase from Amazon in Germany came with a very nice surprise. MWSt (German VAT or GST) was dropped from the price of a milling machine because it was being shipped directly to Auckland.

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Reply # 1867054 15-Sep-2017 19:21

Yep, whenever I order from Amazon UK or Japan they take the tax off :)

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Reply # 1867517 17-Sep-2017 14:38

Can't wait.

But I wish they would come here.

It won't help much being in Aussie for us, with things like furniture. Or food...like tthey are doing in the US.

Damn it.

But I shop online, mostly overseas now, and it's far, far cheaper, plus the choice is brilliant.

You look at NZs overpriced, pitiful few offerings and not.

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Reply # 1867524 17-Sep-2017 15:06

Have to wonder how the likes of mightyape will get on tho, I have primate with them so its free shipping on things, so a tray of redbull or some poptarts are a quick few clicks away, but its still too many clicks for my liking. If amazon do the same but get the dash buttons, voice ordering etc then its goodbye mightyape if the stuffs the same(ish) price but easier to get.

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Reply # 1867531 17-Sep-2017 15:43

jpoc: The warehouse group's recent launch of an Amazon Prime style shipping service is based on their assessment that Amazon will have one or two fulfillment centres up and running here in 2018.

If you're talking about ShipMate, that was a NZ Post initiative, not TWG.

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