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#1068534 18-Jun-2014 15:09

Behodar:
richms: Does chorus do a deal for an ISP buying 2 services into one property like telecom are doing?

I think I read somewhere that the copper line is included (ie. free) with Chorus UFB service.

It is.

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#1068536 18-Jun-2014 15:12

If the tenants just wanted a landline and no broadband, they could always get a Vodafone Home Phone Wireless. Cheaper than a Telecom homeline and doesn't require fibre or copper!

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#1068537 18-Jun-2014 15:13

deadlyllama: If the tenants just wanted a landline and no broadband, they could always get a Vodafone Home Phone Wireless. Cheaper than a Telecom homeline and doesn't require fibre or copper!

chances of people wanting just a homeline without broadband = approaching zero.

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#1068540 18-Jun-2014 15:14

NonprayingMantis:
deadlyllama: If the tenants just wanted a landline and no broadband, they could always get a Vodafone Home Phone Wireless. Cheaper than a Telecom homeline and doesn't require fibre or copper!

chances of people wanting just a homeline without broadband = approaching zero.

I read about a university professor who checks email every six months to allow him to focus on meaningful work.

And even then it is an assistant who prints them out and sends brief replies.

Cheers.

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#1068580 18-Jun-2014 15:33

pohutukawa:
NonprayingMantis:
deadlyllama: If the tenants just wanted a landline and no broadband, they could always get a Vodafone Home Phone Wireless. Cheaper than a Telecom homeline and doesn't require fibre or copper!

chances of people wanting just a homeline without broadband = approaching zero.

I read about a university professor who checks email every six months to allow him to focus on meaningful work.

And even then it is an assistant who prints them out and sends brief replies.

Cheers.

Does he then sign off the replies and fax them back :)

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#1068587 18-Jun-2014 15:38

wellygary:
pohutukawa:
NonprayingMantis:
deadlyllama: If the tenants just wanted a landline and no broadband, they could always get a Vodafone Home Phone Wireless. Cheaper than a Telecom homeline and doesn't require fibre or copper!

chances of people wanting just a homeline without broadband = approaching zero.

I read about a university professor who checks email every six months to allow him to focus on meaningful work.

And even then it is an assistant who prints them out and sends brief replies.

Cheers.

Does he then sign off the replies and fax them back :)

No such luck. He writes the replies on the original printouts and then they are emailed when he's finished them all apparently.

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#1068736 18-Jun-2014 17:55

pohutukawa:
timmmay: When the overhead fiber (Snap) was installed to my property the old copper phone was left there, as was the Vodafone cable. They're a bit ugly, how would I get them removed? If they want to charge me for it I could just go out with a ladder and a pair of hedge trimmers.

Chorus were going to do this for our neighbour until I pointed out that it went over my property.

"Too bad" they said, we're within our rights.

"Too bad" I said, you need my permission.

Which they didn't get.

Lots of arguing ensued.

Finally after lots of "we don't have to do this but to keep you happy we will" they did the right thing and undergrounded the fibre as they were supposed to.

I suspect their last action was to give me the impression that them doing things properly couldn't be extended to other similar situations.

So if they are trying to just replace your overhead line with fibre, tell them to put it in the ground. They are just saving (their) time and (their) money and creating an overhead network nightmare for the future. When the time comes to get rid of those posts, some bureaucrat will see that there are fibre lines going to them and that will be that.

Cheers

Fiber and all utilities are overhead on my street, already supplied to my property months ago. It's not ideal and when they decide to underground things it'll be a heck of a hassle I bet.

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#1068742 18-Jun-2014 18:02

timmmay:
pohutukawa:
timmmay: When the overhead fiber (Snap) was installed to my property the old copper phone was left there, as was the Vodafone cable. They're a bit ugly, how would I get them removed? If they want to charge me for it I could just go out with a ladder and a pair of hedge trimmers.

Chorus were going to do this for our neighbour until I pointed out that it went over my property.

"Too bad" they said, we're within our rights.

"Too bad" I said, you need my permission.

Which they didn't get.

Lots of arguing ensued.

Finally after lots of "we don't have to do this but to keep you happy we will" they did the right thing and undergrounded the fibre as they were supposed to.

I suspect their last action was to give me the impression that them doing things properly couldn't be extended to other similar situations.

So if they are trying to just replace your overhead line with fibre, tell them to put it in the ground. They are just saving (their) time and (their) money and creating an overhead network nightmare for the future. When the time comes to get rid of those posts, some bureaucrat will see that there are fibre lines going to them and that will be that.

Cheers

Fiber and all utilities are overhead on my street, already supplied to my property months ago. It's not ideal and when they decide to underground things it'll be a heck of a hassle I bet.

Maybe then CFH (i.e. all of us) will be paying for it all over again.

Or is that too cynical?

(I don't think so)

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#1068746 18-Jun-2014 18:10

pohutukawa: Maybe then CFH (i.e. all of us) will be paying for it all over again.

Or is that too cynical?

(I don't think so)

Possibly, but they didn't give me any choice, they just did it. Most of the area has utilities underground, just not this street. It could be expensive for taxpayers and for homeowners to underground everything, but probably worthwhile.

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#1068754 18-Jun-2014 18:29

Living in a city where almost all power and phone lines have been undergounded (Palmerston North here) is good. We very rarely have any outages due to bad weather.

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#1068813 18-Jun-2014 19:53

DarthKermit: Living in a city where almost all power and phone lines have been undergounded (Palmerston North here) is good. We very rarely have any outages due to bad weather.

Each storm in our area gives the local lines company, the fire service, the police and anyone else who gets involved when lines are down, a chance to justify their continued, expensive existence.

(no, I'm not saying that police and fire service should be abolished but I am saying that undergrounding is a worthwhile investment).

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#1068818 18-Jun-2014 19:58

A coworker got UFB installed last month and they did it underground, even though his copper was overhead. It'll be interesting to see what they do at my place; most of the neighbouring houses are underground but mine's overhead (it looks like it was originally underground as I've found a "post office cables buried below" plaque at the base of the house, so I'm guessing that it failed at some point and was subsequently changed to overhead).

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#1068822 18-Jun-2014 20:01

Behodar: A coworker got UFB installed last month and they did it underground, even though his copper was overhead. It'll be interesting to see what they do at my place; most of the neighbouring houses are underground but mine's overhead

Why not ask them to underground as that's the direction it's all going in. Would be interesting to hear their response.

(it looks like it was originally underground as I've found a "post office cables buried below" plaque at the base of the house, so I'm guessing that it failed at some point and was subsequently changed to overhead).

That's progress for you.

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#1068992 19-Jun-2014 07:53

pohutukawa: Why not ask them to underground as that's the direction it's all going in. Would be interesting to hear their response.

There's a lot of concrete around my place so it could be tricky to go underground. I'm not fussed either way to be honest :)

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#1069039 19-Jun-2014 09:28

pohutukawa:
DarthKermit: Living in a city where almost all power and phone lines have been undergounded (Palmerston North here) is good. We very rarely have any outages due to bad weather.

Each storm in our area gives the local lines company, the fire service, the police and anyone else who gets involved when lines are down, a chance to justify their continued, expensive existence.

(no, I'm not saying that police and fire service should be abolished but I am saying that undergrounding is a worthwhile investment).

What area are you in? If I may ask.

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