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  #3405088 16-Aug-2025 20:01
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Band steering and a shared SSID can affect setup of things that do not use bluetooth but instead use the broadcast flood of specific sized ethernet frames to push over the wifi details and auth for the cloud server like older tuya stuff, as the phone will never sit on 2.4GHz for long enough for the device to see the transmissions.

 

I know that other implementations used broadcast frames to get the data across but that has other issues with most decent wifi kit which will turn it into unicast to devices instead of broadcast at the lowest rate.

 

But again, once set up there should be nothing stopping them from working on a mixed frequency network. Until you add in WPA3 which breaks many things.





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  #3405090 16-Aug-2025 20:07
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richms: But again, once set up there should be nothing stopping them from working on a mixed frequency network. Until you add in WPA3 which breaks many things.

 

WPA3 is where things also get a bit messier as I've got some devices that refuse to connect even when using WPA2/3 compatibility mode. I fully agree if you're using WPA3 then you may have devices just refuse to connect. I personally use WPA2 as PPSK is also very handy. This is where having a dedicated WPA2 IoT network is great.





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  #3405097 16-Aug-2025 21:13
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michaelmurfy:

 

lxsw20: Not sure how you can confidently state that, its certainly an issue in mine. TP Link plugs being the worst culprit.

 

Yep I've got a bunch of those on my network too:

 

 

Again, never experienced any issues with running a mixed mode network even with IoT devices. On this network, I have fast roaming and even band steering enabled.

 

I can very confidently say that you shouldn't have any issues at all running a mixed mode network these days and trust me when I say I've had experience with many different setups.

 

 

 

 

Agree also have some random IoT style devices not work and have a seperate SSID setup for them.

 

As a side note how are you finding the Route 10 @michaelmurfy? Mine hasn't missed a beat besides a bug in the mobile app that took out the Internet (now patched).





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  #3405100 16-Aug-2025 22:14
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mentalinc: As a side note how are you finding the Route 10 @michaelmurfy? Mine hasn't missed a beat besides a bug in the mobile app that took out the Internet (now patched).

 

Just using the access points that I highly rate. Router is a Mikrotik RB5009 :)





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  #3405195 17-Aug-2025 13:09
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I like my GL.iNet Flint 2, it runs a custom version of OpenWRT but you can flash the vanilla version easily. Still has full access to LuCI.


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  #3405197 17-Aug-2025 13:44
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kiruti:

 

I like my GL.iNet Flint 2, it runs a custom version of OpenWRT but you can flash the vanilla version easily. Still has full access to LuCI.

 

 

 

 

Also flint 3 is out  ..bang for the buck for someone who's on the hyperfibre space lot of pre built features like vpns etc.. 





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  #3405206 17-Aug-2025 15:57
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aj6828:

 

kiruti:

 

I like my GL.iNet Flint 2, it runs a custom version of OpenWRT but you can flash the vanilla version easily. Still has full access to LuCI.

 

 

 

 

Also flint 3 is out  ..bang for the buck for someone who's on the hyperfibre space lot of pre built features like vpns etc.. 

 

 

I heard the Flint 3 was worse than the Flint 2 in some ways, but I can't seem to find much to back myself up. Pretty sure it was related to VPN speed.


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  #3405384 18-Aug-2025 14:47
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michaelmurfy:

 

Yep I've got a bunch of those on my network too:

 

 

Again, never experienced any issues with running a mixed mode network even with IoT devices. On this network, I have fast roaming and even band steering enabled.

 

 

i have one P110M, which i've had no issues with on a mixed mode network. the last time i had issues was with Twinkly lights on an older firmware, maybe 4 years ago. i remember having had to setup a new 2.4GHz only SSID to get that running reliably. i think it's this historical experience that keeps people from trying this change on their network. not everyone enjoys a weekend fiddling with their config, in case something goes wrong.

 

however, i think @zubairj is even more confused now than when he asked his question. 😁 as mentioned in the first reply, you should probably try a setup with separate access points to remove the need for an extender. if so desired, a good router/ap combo would also allow you to have a separate network for your IOT devices that you mentioned among your requirements. sometimes you get lucky with used access points to try and play with to see if they meet your needs.

 

 


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  #3406217 21-Aug-2025 17:35
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I have got a Brume 2 (Router & Tailscale server), KeepLink switch and Archer GXE75.


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  #3406600 22-Aug-2025 19:48
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If you want wifi built in get a Mikrotik hAP ax³ or Chateau PRO ax

 

If you are intending to use separate access points go with the RB5009 which @michaelmurfy suggested.

 

You will get a way better hardware and operating system then anything with OpenWRT.





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  #3406612 22-Aug-2025 20:40
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+1 for Mikrotik. Only OpenWRT routers I've used are Teltonika, absolute crap that belong in a bin.





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  #3406630 22-Aug-2025 21:05
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Is the OP coming back to this thread to see the responses? It was created almost a week ago.


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  #3406680 22-Aug-2025 21:15
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Thanks for the replies all. I am looking into Grandstream GWN7062E router with an access point. I believe the router supports wifi vlan tagging. Grandstream cloud looks good as well. 

 

 


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  #3406681 22-Aug-2025 21:18
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zubairj:

 

Thanks for the replies all. I am looking into Grandstream GWN7062E router with an access point. I believe the router supports wifi vlan tagging. Grandstream cloud looks good as well. 

 

 

NZ distributor lists those as out of stock until 5th September FYI





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  #3406683 22-Aug-2025 21:21
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MichaelNZ:

 

zubairj:

 

Thanks for the replies all. I am looking into Grandstream GWN7062E router with an access point. I believe the router supports wifi vlan tagging. Grandstream cloud looks good as well. 

 

 

NZ distributor lists those as out of stock until 5th September FYI

 

 

 

 

I hope they ship to non customers. 

 

https://www.quic.nz/product/gwn7062e-wifi-6-router/


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