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#1662477 2-Nov-2016 09:26

trig42:

Tell her that Chorus are going to fix the copper, which requires digging up the old line anyway.

She can't stop them fixing the Copper.

Complain like hell about your copper, so that they do actually dig it up and fix it.... See if they can't install fibre then.

I'd go full gas on this path. Go to Paul Henry, the other annoying guy, MP etc.

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#1662488 2-Nov-2016 09:45

I would go to my lawyer for advice.

Maybe a letter from your lawyer would do the trick.

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#1662490 2-Nov-2016 09:47

I wouldn't do that for trivial things - if they want to pick a fight the only winners are the lawyers and will easily bankrupt the pursuers.

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#1662498 2-Nov-2016 10:14

Tell her if she doesn't agree you will report the dangerous dog?

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#1662511 2-Nov-2016 10:34

The law change relating to consent is expected to take effect around April/May based on the most recent industry feedback.

Under this, a neighbour will have to provide reasonable grounds within a fairly short timeframe for their objection to be accepted.

I would advise against any aggro/dispute with a neighbour so that the onus is on them to sustain any objection.

Also be a good idea to have your landlord submit the request as the property owner if the issue is between you the tenant and the neighbour.

Australia have this system and it works quite well, the only complaint seems to be from people that expect new for old in terms of re-instatement activity relating to the install.

It is worth raising this with your MP to ensure the law change stays on track

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#1662524 2-Nov-2016 10:55

Contact that Neighbours at War TV show, then everyone will be "entertained" by your disputes.

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#1662531 2-Nov-2016 11:08

Does your neighbours phone line also come out at the same point as your phone line ?

A bit of snipping or acid down the junction ?

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#1662741 2-Nov-2016 14:58

So... (unless I missed it), nobody has asked if it is a cross lease title?

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#1662782 2-Nov-2016 15:39

IANAL. But why aren't chorus installing the line down your driveway?

Does your property have an easement across your neighbor property for some services, which is why the current phoneline is under their property? This will show on the titles of either or both properties. If so, then I can't see why they need their permission to pull the line through? Although as Fibre is essentially a new type of service, it may not be considered a phone line. That easement though may now be redundant, if your property has it's own access. Be interested to see what lawyers think of the situation.

There are also always to sides to neighborhood disputes.

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#1662894 2-Nov-2016 19:08

You know it could be as simple as - Chorus determines it's not viable to run fibre under the neighbour's house ... could that be a possibility?

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#1662923 2-Nov-2016 20:05

CrypticKaxar:

.......... Chrous sent a consent form to our neighbour, and as we expected, she didn't sign it.

TL;DR: Our neighbour won't consent to UFB due to certain reasons, and we suffer for it as our internet and phonelines cut out multiple times a day.

Have you asked her what those reasons are? And if so, what reason did she give? I am curious what you mean by "certain" reasons?

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#1662926 2-Nov-2016 20:13

mattwnz:

IANAL. But why aren't chorus installing the line down your driveway?

Does your property have an easement across your neighbor property for some services, which is why the current phoneline is under their property? This will show on the titles of either or both properties. If so, then I can't see why they need their permission to pull the line through? Although as Fibre is essentially a new type of service, it may not be considered a phone line. That easement though may now be redundant, if your property has it's own access. Be interested to see what lawyers think of the situation.

There are also always to sides to neighborhood disputes.

There was a bit of discussion on Chorus and easements in this thread.

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#1662953 2-Nov-2016 20:39

Thread author: are you able to post a picture of a satellite view showing your place and the neighbours'?

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#1662958 2-Nov-2016 20:53

DaveB:

CrypticKaxar:

.......... Chrous sent a consent form to our neighbour, and as we expected, she didn't sign it.

TL;DR: Our neighbour won't consent to UFB due to certain reasons, and we suffer for it as our internet and phonelines cut out multiple times a day.

Have you asked her what those reasons are? And if so, what reason did she give? I am curious what you mean by "certain" reasons?

I already said it above. Because she's not the best neighbour (to put it nicely). She grows ivy on our shared fence and lets her dogs out which have bitten us.

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#1662964 2-Nov-2016 21:11

We recently had to give consent and the forms/leaflets provided by Chorus are a bit generalised and not that great.

We are always going to say yes, but we really wanted to know what Chorus would do (we sit between them and the road) before they did it. With a bit of badgering the good lady her indoors managed to get Chorus to provide their plans (PDF) and we were more than happy to say yes.

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