My un-consented UFB install

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#1185588 29-Nov-2014 21:53

What happened there? Its in the wrong order.

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#1185592 29-Nov-2014 22:04

Ever seen an electrician do that? No? We'll they can't do that because for them it would not be legal. It is quite possible to run a cable inside a wall even if it is insulated; how? Well, ask a good electrician. If a sparkle NEEDS to run cable on the surface he will put it in capping... exactly the way professional data installer would do it.

Anyone that runs a cable on the surface like that is either doing a commercial (cheap, no one cares) install or is an incompetent slob.

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#1185594 29-Nov-2014 22:06

richms: What happened there? Its in the wrong order.

Yeah, I accidentally deleted my original post so reposted it, by which point other people had replied. Didn't even realise there was a delete button on Geekzone.

Regardless, that install is crazy, it's bad enough having cables running along a fence where they could easily get broken, let alone a black cable running along a white interior wall!

I'l post the picture again:

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#1185595 29-Nov-2014 22:06

If you want it run in the walls etc nicely then you have the choice of paying an electrician or cabling contractor to run the cable at your cost.

For a free installation the standards cosmetically are much more open and basically if it works and isnt putting the install where it is at unreasonable risk of damage, then it is fine.

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#1185596 29-Nov-2014 22:08

What I want to know is how the light makes the 90 degree corner at the wall/ceiling junction...maybe it slows down to 35km/h

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#1185602 29-Nov-2014 22:09

richms: If you want it run in the walls etc nicely then you have the choice of paying an electrician or cabling contractor to run the cable at your cost.

For a free installation the standards cosmetically are much more open and basically if it works and isnt putting the install where it is at unreasonable risk of damage, then it is fine.

Balderdash, total lack of professionalism

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#1185603 29-Nov-2014 22:17

richms: For a free installation the standards cosmetically are much more open and basically if it works and isnt putting the install where it is at unreasonable risk of damage, then it is fine.

1. No installation is "free" - the consumer pays for it, directly or indirectly.
2. This third-world installation is totally unacceptable in any office or home.

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#1185605 29-Nov-2014 22:22

richms: If you want it run in the walls etc nicely then you have the choice of paying an electrician or cabling contractor to run the cable at your cost.

For a free installation the standards cosmetically are much more open and basically if it works and isnt putting the install where it is at unreasonable risk of damage, then it is fine.

It isn't free though, installs on average cost about $1500 from what I previously read. Although individuals aren't paying directly for them, we are still paying for them indirectly. So if they can save money, then it will be a saving for them. I believe industry practice for installing wires in houses, is to put them into walls. With the right tools it doesn't take much longer, but it means that you have to go under the floor or into the roof space.

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#1185606 29-Nov-2014 22:23

I hate to bite even further but in my install which was done by Northpower, yes it was overhead. But in terms of cable inside the house itself, they put ducting and cable covers from where they drilled from inside the roof into the bedroom where our ONT is currently placed.
I know you can't compare LFCs but what's the deal with the exposed cable? Maybe I don't understand it enough but isn't there a standard for this kind of practice in the initial install? I very much doubt that people would think that eth's photo that was posted looks tidy. It's dreadful.

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#1185607 29-Nov-2014 22:24

richms: If you want it run in the walls etc nicely then you have the choice of paying an electrician or cabling contractor to run the cable at your cost.

For a free installation the standards cosmetically are much more open and basically if it works and isnt putting the install where it is at unreasonable risk of damage, then it is fine.

You are 100% incorrect. That is the Chorus network and must not be tampered with. A sparky can not do a UFB install.

If Chorus are going to tell people they can put the ONT where they want it they need to do a tidy job inside the house.

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#1185609 29-Nov-2014 22:32

Someone suggested on the original Facebook post, Get resene spray bottle and spray cord to match wall colour.

I'm sure that they were just joking but honestly at this rate it wouldn't surprise me if Chorus starts doing all fibre installs with a cable nailed to the fence, running over the lawn, straight into the house then stapled to the ceiling before connecting to the ONT and when people start complaining, stating that it is an "acceptable installation method" and that if you aren't happy, paint the cable the same colour and the wall...

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#1185610 29-Nov-2014 22:33

So what do you expect chorus to pay the techs to do in a case where that is the only option to get to the desired ONT location? Reject the install? Pay 1000's on make good on the interior after opening the wall up to run inside? Run needeless capping on the cables making it even larger and more obvious?

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#1185611 29-Nov-2014 22:42

I see many comments about how these installs are free... No they are not, the government (you and I ) are paying quite well for them.
If you are a contractor and think this sort of work is acceptable please stop. You are not the sort of person the rest of us want doing this work. If you would like to do better but can't afford to, then you shouldn't have signed the contract in the first place.

I take pride in my work and I take pride in the many people I have trained to do this sort of work. This stuff is an embarrassment, and an insult to all good tradesmen.

If you work for a contractor who thinks this sort of thing is acceptable, don't do it, have some pride, Find a professional to work for.

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#1185612 29-Nov-2014 22:43

richms: So what do you expect chorus to pay the techs to do in a case where that is the only option to get to the desired ONT location? Reject the install? Pay 1000's on make good on the interior after opening the wall up to run inside? Run needeless capping on the cables making it even larger and more obvious?

Yes that's exactly what they should do

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#1185615 29-Nov-2014 22:51

richms: So what do you expect chorus to pay the techs to do in a case where that is the only option to get to the desired ONT location? Reject the install? Pay 1000's on make good on the interior after opening the wall up to run inside? Run needeless capping on the cables making it even larger and more obvious?

You shouldn't need to open the walls though, as there are tools and get wires in walls without opening them up. There will be cases where they may need to , including unconventional builds, but in those cases they could charge an addiitional fee for the option. But I would say that 90% of the cases it should be possible to get the wires in the walls without having to open a wall. But it may come down to the qualifications and skill level of the people doing the installs.

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