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#157188 22-Nov-2014 17:01
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Considering moving to fibre from my current ADSL2 setup.  Primarily for the fact we have heaps of devices, kids and the mrs all accessing the net at similar times and for the first time I'm starting to notice lag and delay / slow speeds when multiple devices, Ipods, Netflix, etc is accessing the net.   Prior to me doing anything, would the fibre connection improve the above?  I currently get about 14 down and 0.5 up on the ADSL2 connection.

I can see where the current telecom connection enters the house - 15 year old build - on the outside of the internal garage wall closest to the road and presume the ETP will also be in the same spot.

My current setup has the house fed from a gigabit switch in my study that feeds various sockets around the home as well as wireless via the router.  Upon reading various bits and pieces I am seeing some recommendation that the ONT is placed on the far side of the wall to the ETP and the distribution panel, patching etc will run from that cabinet.

1) Do you know if there is an issue in placing the ONT in a different room in the home which in this case would be about a straight line distance of 10 to 12 metres from where the connection is terminated outside the house or should I be installing the kit in the garage?

2) How are the phones connected if they kill the current copper connection ?  Will I need to rewire them back to the new star panel as well ?

3) I'm on a shared back section driveway so will need consent. Does the installer have the option of pulling the fibre up the copper conduit or will they trench and lay new stuff? Just so I can give the neighbours a rough idea of what might happen if and when they sign the consent form etc.

Thanks for any help

 

Ged

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  #1181341 22-Nov-2014 17:16
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Yes, it absolutely would speed things up. 0.5 up is probably your limitation, TCP needs to upload to ACK the downloads. You'd be fine on 30/10 if it's still offered, but the faster plans aren't much more expensive.

1. ONT can go where you like, but your garage sounds like a good distribution point.
2. Depends on the ISP, but you can likely use the existing wiring.
3. No idea.

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  #1181344 22-Nov-2014 17:22
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Thanks Timmmay.  I would probably want the ONT in the study (where I already have most of the Catr5e cable running to), otherwise I've got a lot of new cables to pull through the roofspace and walls etc

or is it simply that the ONT connects to my current gigabit switch using one ethernet cable and all will be well? 

 
 
 
 


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  #1181369 22-Nov-2014 17:56
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the ONT doesn't have to be where the star point is. most of the time its just easier to do it that way in new builds. In already existing situations it may not be that simple.

if you are distributing your entire network from the office you could just run 1 or 2 cables from the office to the garage to enable the router (in the office) to interact with the ONT in the garage.


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  #1181377 22-Nov-2014 17:59
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Sweet thanks. That's exactly what I was hoping to learn.

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  #1181380 22-Nov-2014 18:05
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when we revovate i would be having my ONT in the garage, as its closest to the street and then having a media/server cupboard in the middle of the house where everything will be distributed from.

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  #1181390 22-Nov-2014 18:26
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gedc: <Snip> I can see where the current telecom connection enters the house - 15 year old build - on the outside of the internal garage wall closest to the road and presume the ETP will also be in the same spot.


More than likely if that is where your Chorus (not telecom) service conduit ends then yes that will be where the new ETP will be installed

My current setup has the house fed from a gigabit switch in my study that feeds various sockets around the home as well as wireless via the router.  Upon reading various bits and pieces I am seeing some recommendation that the ONT is placed on the far side of the wall to the ETP and the distribution panel, patching etc will run from that cabinet.

1) Do you know if there is an issue in placing the ONT in a different room in the home which in this case would be about a straight line distance of 10 to 12 metres from where the connection is terminated outside the house or should I be installing the kit in the garage?


If the ONT is to be installed in one location and your RGW (Router) in another then you can either have the installers run an CAT6 with RJ45 sockets on each end, at your expence, during the install or you provide the connection between the two (this can be a temp  long patch cord @ time of install so you can run it to the exact location later)


2) How are the phones connected if they kill the current copper connection ?  Will I need to rewire them back to the new star panel as well ?


 Depending on your provider - these are delivered from either the ONT or the RGW - The installers will install a single or duel RG45 Socket beside the ONT that will connect back outside (ETP) to your existing home phone wireing (refered to as legacy wireing) and connected up there.  So there is no need to convert your legacy wireing just yet


3) I'm on a shared back section driveway so will need consent. Does the installer have the option of pulling the fibre up the copper conduit or will they trench and lay new stuff? Just so I can give the neighbours a rough idea of what might happen if and when they sign the consent form etc.


If the existing conduits are suitable to be used for UFB delivery to you and your neighbours then there will be no need for additional concents and construction - but if there is a no conduits or they are unusable then your ROW will have to go for concent and then 'Design' to provide a solution that is usable for all down the ROW


I hope this helps - if your have any more questions just ask

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  #1182024 24-Nov-2014 11:12
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HI. Thanks heaps for all the helps so far.

Where I've got to with fibre.

When the time comes I'll install the ONT in the garage, on the wall where the fibre comes into the home.  I'll connect that ONT to my router / panel which I'll have located in the study / home office where there will be plenty space both in terms of cupboard and also moving around upstairs in the loft space to run cables. It's about 20 metres Cat 5e run so not too bad.   It also means I can simply cut short some of the current cat5e runs ( as I'm moving the office space internally ) instead of running whole new lengths to the garage.

That should take care of data points around the home. Wireless will be supplied by the router in the office to the whole house ( as currently is )

 


Phone - Will currently use the current copper network inside the walls but will also run additional phone points back to the study and into the panel for future connection



TV - I've got a couple of queries here and have seen people running RG6 cables from their star hub.   We've got sky TV and a normal aerial. The aerial doesn't get used but does feed the main TV. The sky feed is split and feeds 2x MyskyHDI boxes - one in the main TV and the other in the teens rumpus.

As part of the remodel I'm thinking I should run some TV cabling into the new bedrooms alongside the data cabling ?  But...I'm not sure what for..... Does it become a central hub for distributing terrestrial telly and or a modulated sky signal from the main box etc ??  I'm not sure on the cost versus return here as simply see them using their telly in their rooms to access gaming console, DVD etc...  I also run a shared NAS so they could access that using the data cabling and some small interactive box - WDTV, NUC etc 

 

Any comments around distributing TV around the house would be helpful thanks.



 

Ged

 

 

 
 
 
 


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Run two cat6 cables where you think you might want a TV feed (ie HDMI over cat6) plus one for data and any extras for phones etc

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