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Topic # 161865 22-Jan-2015 01:02
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I found it interesting to compare our speeds to other countries internet, we don't seem to be that bad.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/

New Zealand
Total Bytes: 268.9 TB
Average Download Rate: 9.4 Mbps
Percentage of global Steam Traffic: 0.3%


Performance by Internet Service Provider (ISP)
Shown below are the average download rates for Steam clients on the most popular Internet Service Providers for New Zealand, sorted by the number of bytes delivered to that network.

Network                      Average Download Rate
Spark NZ                                            8 Mbps
Vodafone NZ                                       8.9 Mbps
CallPlus                                               8 Mbps
Orcon                                               10.8 Mbps
TelstraClear                                      16.3 Mbps
Snap                                                12.1 Mbps
TrustPower                                         8.5 Mbps
Flip                                                    7.3 Mbps
TDIGITAL-AS-AP TDigital,NZ                9 Mbps
COMPASS-NZ-AP COMPASS,NZ            6.1 Mbps







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  Reply # 1219627 22-Jan-2015 01:02
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

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Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

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  Reply # 1219635 22-Jan-2015 01:04
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Sorry about the text not lining up properly at the end, it appeared fine when I typed the post.







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  Reply # 1219638 22-Jan-2015 01:10
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cool.  
Wonder if the high rates for Telstraclear and Orcon have anything to do with the Steam Caches they used to have, or if it's just that they have a disproportionately large amount of customers on either UFB or Cable.
Seems likely to be the latter reason, since Snap also shows up as good.

I assume TDIGITAL is  Telecom Digital Ventures  - i.e. us (Bigpipe)




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  Reply # 1219659 22-Jan-2015 06:46
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hmmm why such a big disparity between telstra-clear and Vfone are they not one and the same and good to see Orcon doing well (YAY for my ISP) but I think those steam caches haven't worked right for a while now hence why they stopped zero rating steam data 

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  Reply # 1219889 22-Jan-2015 11:11
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Athlonite: hmmm why such a big disparity between telstra-clear and Vfone are they not one and the same and good to see Orcon doing well (YAY for my ISP) but I think those steam caches haven't worked right for a while now hence why they stopped zero rating steam data 


At a network level, TCL and VF are still totally separate.
The TCL stats will likely represent the high proportion of cable customers on 15+Mbps speeds, whereas most other ISPs have majority DSL where average is around 10Mbps  (bear in mind this isn't sync speed, it's actual throughput, so will also be impacted by things like wifi, multiple users in household etc)

Likewise, for Snap and Orcon, they were the first two large ISPs to do UFB, so will (presumably) have a higher proportion of customers downloading at 100MBps which would skew the results upwards.




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  Reply # 1219986 22-Jan-2015 12:20
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Athlonite: hmmm why such a big disparity between telstra-clear and Vfone are they not one and the same and good to see Orcon doing well (YAY for my ISP) but I think those steam caches haven't worked right for a while now hence why they stopped zero rating steam data 


Depends if vodafone have updated their apnic whois records and if the geolocation that steam are using has also been updated since.
I know up until a couple of years ago, some speedtest results were still showing ihug as the isp.




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  Reply # 1219998 22-Jan-2015 12:30
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To add complexity, they also do not know the proportions of rural users on long lines.  We don't get a very large rural component of volunteers such that we could predict market shares, but the vast majority of them are Vodafone or Spark suggesting this sample is going to be influenced by that.

As also said above, Wifi, Tethering, Cafe wifi, and mobile may all end up in this comparison, although it is a lot closer to the actuals we measure than that published by Akamai.  The average is almost bang on.

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  Reply # 1220042 22-Jan-2015 12:57
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yea wifi would have a huge impact on speeds. take these numbers with a grain of salt.




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  Reply # 1220066 22-Jan-2015 13:17
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BigPipeNZ: cool.  
Wonder if the high rates for Telstraclear and Orcon have anything to do with the Steam Caches they used to have, or if it's just that they have a disproportionately large amount of customers on either UFB or Cable.


We haven't used the local Steam caches for a while now. They changed the underlying protocol to HTTP away from their proprietary protocol.

The speeds IMHO seem to reflect ISP's who have a higher proportion of higher speed access systems vs ADSL.

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  Reply # 1220069 22-Jan-2015 13:20
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Whoops I should have said bang on for ADSL.  We just published a comparison of NZ speeds using excellent market share data from Chorus for all but Cable and other LFC's which we estimated (yes guessed, but with some science :-)

See here https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/nz-broadband-speed-accelerates-2014

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e also gave a chart of the history of speeds over the last couple of years - all based on the market share data, i.e. we took our actual results for each technology and each ISP, and used weightings by ISP and technology to come to an average.  

Here is our 9pm chart from the article above:



Note: We never publish actual DSL speeds because it is not possible to compare DSL by ISP when the results are also dependent on a weighting based on distance to the DSLAM.  If we were to publish speeds then ISPs would be encouraged to reject customer applications that have long lines and could potentially reduce their "Speeds"

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  Reply # 1220090 22-Jan-2015 13:52
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solaybro: I found it interesting to compare our speeds to other countries internet, we don't seem to be that bad.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/

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Thanks for pointing me to these stats & making me laugh. Had a look at South Africa amongs others and found this:
Network Average                        Download Rate
Telkom-Internet,ZA                     1.7 Mbps
MTNNS-AS,ZA                             2.1 Mbps
MWEB-10474,ZA                         1.6 Mbps
IS,ZA                                         2.2 Mbps
Neotel-AS,ZA                              1.7 Mbps
SAIX-NET,ZA                              2.4 Mbps
DPBOL,ZA                                   3 Mbps
CA2-AS,ZA                                 1.4 Mbps
TELKOMMOBILE,ZA                      3.6 Mbps
VODACOM-ZA,ZA                        3.3 Mbps

MTN, VodaCom, TelkomMobile & NeoTel are mobile providers. Love that three out of four rates are faster than fixed lines like MWeb, Internet Solutions (IS) and Telkom / SAIX. tongue-out

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  Reply # 1221468 24-Jan-2015 17:06
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IcI:
MTN, VodaCom, TelkomMobile & NeoTel are mobile providers. Love that three out of four rates are faster than fixed lines like MWeb, Internet Solutions (IS) and Telkom / SAIX. tongue-out


I wonder if that suggests one reason why Telecom and Vodafone speeds are low. Perhaps both wireless and wired connections are averaged together.

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