NZ broadband in the dark ages or just a Hissy fit?

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Topic # 173337 20-May-2015 07:40

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"A Dunedin gaming developer has moved a multimillion-dollar project offshore because New Zealand's broadband is in the "dark age". Dean Hall is the creator of DayZ, a zombie survival game that has sold more than 3 million copies and made more than $137.7 million."

I reckon our internet is great, UFB is being rolled out to 75% of the population. THis is pretty good.

I don't know what this guy is on about as our speeds will be world class.

And, he is based in dunedin which is even better with 2gbps speeds.

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Reply # 1308123 20-May-2015 07:43

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That doesn't make any sense, especially since he's in "Gigatown". If he's getting major performance issues then it's likely down to his chosen ISP rather than NZ broadband as a whole.

I note that he doesn't go into any details whatsoever (simply claiming that he "got better internet on [a] plane") so he's either with a completely incompetent ISP or he's fabricating lies as an excuse to leave the country.

Edit: After reading the article more completely, it seems that it's a headline to grab views (typical of Stuff); further down it admits that he wasn't fully informed and has since spoken with Chorus and that "his issues were largely resolved".

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Reply # 1308129 20-May-2015 08:07

So he created a $4M loss in moving due to not being informed, I hope his fund providers dont see that. I suspect he is beating up and moving for other reasons, his own ignorance helping him make the move.

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Reply # 1308131 20-May-2015 08:16

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Any credibility he had goes out the door when he suggests broadband is better on a plane.

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Reply # 1308175 20-May-2015 09:13

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Hissy fit. Plain and simple.

If he dosent like it, he can move the office somewhere else, easy.

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Reply # 1308178 20-May-2015 09:14

sbiddle: Any credibility he had goes out the door when he suggests broadband is better on a plane.

"I got better internet on the plane to Iceland three weeks ago."

Iceland has very good internet services.
I run a proxy server in Reykjavik and get excellent speeds to New Zealand. Yes, really.

But I've never tried in a plane - sounds doubtful.

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Reply # 1308179 20-May-2015 09:15

Sounds like Gen Y

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Reply # 1308180 20-May-2015 09:15

any reason why you didn't include a link to the article in the OP?

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Reply # 1308190 20-May-2015 09:21

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I think his issues are that the building(s) he wants to work from are not yet connected to UFB.
After his Twissy fit, Chorus has been in touch, and have informed him he is ready to go, and to contact his ISP about placing an order.

You'd think that before you moved into a space for work, you'd have things like phones and power and internet all sorted out? We do at work when we move into a new premises.

Edit: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/games/68677940/game-developer-dean-hall-says-new-zealand-broadband-in-the-dark-age
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11451619

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Reply # 1308200 20-May-2015 09:32

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Bet he is using 2.4GHz WiFi.

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Reply # 1308205 20-May-2015 09:43

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Wow, did someone piddle in your guys sand pit??

Everyone knows not to trust Stuff for factually correct reporting.

What he actually said on twitter

So @gigatowndunedin win is total joke. Tried multiple CBD locations no fibre. Good work @DnCityCouncil & @ChorusNZ! Lets keep nz in dark age

There was some discussion and then

@ChorusNZ @DnCityCouncil Scouted a second CBD location today: no fibre. I got better internet on the plane to Iceland three weeks ago.

He was comparing a potential crappy no fibre experience with the plane......

And surely none of you can argue that the uptake to the new UFB network has been remarkable, with numerous threads on here about the legal/technical/speed/[insert anything here] difficulties with getting installations done. I think he makes very good points, and that we should all remember context is important. The end.

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Reply # 1308208 20-May-2015 09:47

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show boating "look at me" bollocks.

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Reply # 1308219 20-May-2015 09:58

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itxtme: Wow, did someone piddle in your guys sand pit??

Everyone knows not to trust Stuff for factually correct reporting.

What he actually said on twitter

So @gigatowndunedin win is total joke. Tried multiple CBD locations no fibre. Good work @DnCityCouncil & @ChorusNZ! Lets keep nz in dark age

There was some discussion and then

@ChorusNZ @DnCityCouncil Scouted a second CBD location today: no fibre. I got better internet on the plane to Iceland three weeks ago.

He was comparing a potential crappy no fibre experience with the plane......

And surely none of you can argue that the uptake to the new UFB network has been remarkable, with numerous threads on here about the legal/technical/speed/[insert anything here] difficulties with getting installations done. I think he makes very good points, and that we should all remember context is important. The end.

It is poor reporting.

However, I still think the guy is wrong. The UFB rollout is happening and speeds are wonderful.

You are wrong too, show me another country that is doing the same as NZ without encountering some difficulties.

Aussie tried to do it and failed miserably.

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Reply # 1308228 20-May-2015 10:10

surfisup1000:

It is poor reporting.

However, I still think the guy is wrong. The UFB rollout is happening and speeds are wonderful.

You are wrong too, show me another country that is doing the same as NZ without encountering some difficulties.

Aussie tried to do it and failed miserably.

Again, context - speeds arent being discussed in the setting of UFB, but the setting of no UFB....

Not sure why I am wrong?? Just said that uptake is slow, and there were multiple difficulties that potentially could be streamlined.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/68397090/businesses-not-ultra-fast-to-connect
http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/10091183/UFB-uptake-slow-but-rollout-well-on-target
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/521946/kiwis_slow_ufb_uptake_connectivity_professor_darl_kolb/
http://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/news/article/?id=40667
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/66049189/No-pass-mark-for-ultra-fast-broadband-says-Labour
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10891805

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Reply # 1308230 20-May-2015 10:12

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Some people just like to complain. Had he investigated the root cause of the problems? It could be many many things - hey wouldn't be surprised if he is using WiFi for development of images heavy products...

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Reply # 1308233 20-May-2015 10:13

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I wonder what the chances are that his problems with not getting fibre at location X has more to do with the building and its infrastructure than Chorus. People seem to forget that just because there is fibre in the street doesn't mean you can call up your ISP and it will somehow magically start working out of one of your phone jacks just like how they've experienced ADSL.
Seriously the company makes multiplayer computer games you would think he would have a clue about sorting this out before deciding on a location.

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