UFB "Standard" Installation: FTB - ONT

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#185356 19-Nov-2015 11:18

Edit: TItle edited after some enlightenment from the thread

Original question:

Hi apologies for my ignorance / understanding of a fibre internet connection.

Chorus came and suggested all kinds of places to put both the fibre box (that's the ONT correct?) and the Spark supplied router (HG659B).
- needs power.
- they must be close to each other as possible
- not connected via Cat6 cable but some special fibre cable
- all those places were at the corners of the house, in the house, right where everyone will see.

So I suggested a hidden place somewhere in a more central location, and we agreed on that. PHEW.

Question

Can I put the router in a different location and drill a hole through a wall/floor and run that special fibre cable to connect with the ONT. Say estimating 3m distance of cabling. So that the router is more accessible (wifi, LAN).

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#1431033 19-Nov-2015 11:21

The connection between the ONT and your router is just plain old Ethernet. You can theoretically move the router anywhere within Ethernet range, there's no need for them to be close by. 3 meters is no problem at all.

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#1431036 19-Nov-2015 11:26

Um, the ONT for my UFB install and my router are connected by a 10m Cat6 cable that happened to already be installed in the room and therefore in no way, shape, or form special. I am sure that someone that officially has a clue will comment here but in my non-professional opinion you were being fed a line :)

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#1431038 19-Nov-2015 11:28

The ONT and router connect via ethernet, so up to ~90m or so is fine. There may be an exterior point, which connects to the ONT via fibre, which may be what they are talking around (rather than the ONT to the Spark router)?

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#1431039 19-Nov-2015 11:28

The ONT connects to your router with Cat5/6 so yes, you can drill a hole and put your router somewhere else.

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#1431040 19-Nov-2015 11:28

The connection from ONT to Router is gigabit Ethernet, so it can be up to 100m on cat5e or cat6 cable.

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#1431042 19-Nov-2015 11:31

Chorus ONT has Gigabit Ethernet ports.

To connect your router, residential gateway etc. use standard Ethernet cables (Cat5/Cat6).

^GL

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#1431057 19-Nov-2015 11:53

I think the 'close to each other as possible' is for the free install. Anymore than that - drilling through walls and adding ethernet outlets - may incur additional charge.

In my case they strung some cat6 under the house and did a neat keystone outlet in the lounge wall for the router, but officially the free install is only up to the ONT location (in my case the garage)

Special fibre cable is only up to the ONT, as stated by others.

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#1431065 19-Nov-2015 12:10

Since we are talking about the ONT box, can someone enlighten me if the box needs good ventilation to keep operating properly? Does it run hot when connected (100/20)?

I am trying to find out if it's OK to have it installed in a closed space where ventilation isn't the most ideal but leaves the box out-of-sight. Thanks

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#1431068 19-Nov-2015 12:16

GeekRay: Since we are talking about the ONT box, can someone enlighten me if the box needs good ventilation to keep operating properly? Does it run hot when connected (100/20)?

I am trying to find out if it's OK to have it installed in a closed space where ventilation isn't the most ideal but leaves the box out-of-sight. Thanks

They produce about as much heat as a residential wifi router. The power supply is 12v, 2a rated so that gives you an idea of potential heat output (<24w). In a decent size cupboard, for example, it should be able to dissipate adequately.

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#1431077 19-Nov-2015 12:36

My parents' ONT is in a cupboard and I haven't heard of it overheating. They've had it for about a year.

Mine's in the garage and the router is in the house. No problems with distance; as noted above it's just standard Ethernet between them.

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#1431078 19-Nov-2015 12:45

GeekRay: Since we are talking about the ONT box, can someone enlighten me if the box needs good ventilation to keep operating properly? Does it run hot when connected (100/20)?

I am trying to find out if it's OK to have it installed in a closed space where ventilation isn't the most ideal but leaves the box out-of-sight. Thanks

Our ONT is in the closet with the vacuum cleaner and linen. No problems there. For quite a few months, I had our ONT connected to the router via a powerline adapter it worked a treat. So if you want your router and ONT far apart also consider a powerline adapter. Possibly cheaper than getting a sparkie in to install ethernet, performance is slightly less than a dedicated ethernet line, but more than adequate for most home users, and better than Wifi. (By the way the ONT is the equivalent of the ADSL modem, so for UFB you connect the ONT to a router and not a dedicated modem)

I found the guy who did our scope was quite confident about what he was talking about, which I mistook for competence. Don't take everything they say as gospel, you did well coming to Geekzone as there are some clued up IT cookies who post here. (I'm not one of them)

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#1431080 19-Nov-2015 12:49

ONT's are commonly installed in small metal cabinets recessed in the wall in new builds. If your cupboard is any bigger than this, with some vents for circulation it should not be an issue:

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#1431082 19-Nov-2015 12:52

Thanks heaps for those quick and informative answers. Much appreciated.

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#1431097 19-Nov-2015 13:28

Did an imposter visit me?

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#1431099 19-Nov-2015 13:32

What about power supply? Do i need a power point nearby?

I told him i wanted the ont where the current vdsl master filter is so he can just plug the existing cat6 wire into the ont which leads straight to my router

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