Is Clevedon really a black hole in broadband coverage , as per Phil Golf can't work from home.

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#270034 20-Apr-2020 14:50

Is Clevedon in South Auckland an Internet twilight zone Phil Golf says it is.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/121113148/poor-wifi-means-auckland-mayor-phil-goff-must-keep-up-86km-office-commute-in-lockdown

I was a bit surprised that given its mostly flat nature.
Not that far from Papakura that if fiber or copper ( Did Clevedon not get POTS ? ) is out, wireless broadband is also ?

Well I would have thought given the money spent on Auckland's Mayor ,
a few 10's K on a point to point microwave link to closest civilization would not be on the cards, could share some with the internet deprived locals ?

Or did the article and council over-egg this a bit.

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#2466256 20-Apr-2020 14:53

Hi, not knowing exactly where the property is, one would not know how well serviced for DSL or Fibre, but I did send Todd Niall a link to Stratanet that operate a WISP service out there, not heard back from him.

Edit, looking at the Chorus coverage map, it seems there is plenty of VDSL about, so a bit of imagination surely would have sorted it, plus adding the WISP option, I guess the "Councils IT" boffins cannot be good at everyting, but hey he could live in a cold miserable hole.

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#2466302 20-Apr-2020 14:57

Based on an hour each way, I would assume it would be far cheaper to pay for a satellite connection that will work from anywhere than Mr Goff's morning and evening commute

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#2466308 20-Apr-2020 15:03

At least this is not as bad as Simon Bridges claiming he has to drive from Tauranga to Wellington in order to get a good internet connection.

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#2466313 20-Apr-2020 15:06

This has been discussed in a few places, there is a local wisp that has coverage from his tower about 1.5KM away and has previously offered service....

Reads to me exactly as i kinda expected. Yes, his copper service is bad. Does that mean he should be in the one rural community to get fibre piped to the door. Probably not (unless he wants todo PoA)..

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#2466315 20-Apr-2020 15:08

hio77:

This has been discussed in a few places, there is a local wisp that has coverage from his tower about 1.5KM away and has previously offered service....

Reads to me exactly as i kinda expected. Yes, his copper service is bad. Does that mean he should be in the one rural community to get fibre piped to the door. Probably not (unless he wants todo PoA)..

Sounds like he got what he deserves then.

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#2466316 20-Apr-2020 15:08

True, could be deepest darkest Clevedon , their version of sleepy hollow.

I did find this pic that does not say much.

Might be an opportunity for a network that the council did not contact.

The value of the client would suggest that there would be a good size budget for works to resolve.

Edit to add below.

hio77 , cyril7 Thanks guys

Caught up with your replies, looks like it is self imposed .

Just loves driving, or the smell of that leather desk in the morning !

Takes all kinds.

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#2466346 20-Apr-2020 15:45

Just seen this post... bit late to chime in with some facts

DSL is only good for 5km form the cabinet/exchange and that will give you 1.5mbps and you need a damm good master splitter and modem to get that

POTS goes about 8km (hence there are still pots only lines out there) anymore that that you need E1 PCM repeaters every 2KM, DSL wont pass through a PCM cabinet

His best option is a local WISP as @hio77 mentioned but that probably comes with some install cost he doesn't want to pay!

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#2466490 20-Apr-2020 17:46

Looking through the companies register I think he may have moved from the address he was at when he held shares back in 2011. But that address looked like it had VDSL as it was fairly close to a cabinet.

I think the two important parts I take from the article that the mobile coverage and broadband is also poor.

Having a look at a the Spark and Vodafone 4G coverage maps, the Vodafone coverage doesn't look as good as Spark so I would suspect that Auckland Council uses Vodafone on their corporate plan.

And with poor broadband I would suspect he is quite rural, but without knowing the address (which I don't want to know) then it is hard to judge.

Lastly it is somewhat different to Simon Bridges, as Simon already has UFB at home.

Both Simon and Phil look like they have never thought that sorting out decent broadband at home was important when it should be very easily do-able for Simon as he already has UFB and would probably cost just a bit more for Phil to sort it.

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#2466614 20-Apr-2020 20:24

I'm not sure why there are people in this thread suggesting that he should be upgrading his home internet or that should cost the city anything. It's a 30 minute commute for an essential worker, not driving to Wellington. It's hardly unique and it's not like Goff is asking for anything.

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#2466617 20-Apr-2020 20:35

Handle9:

I'm not sure why there are people in this thread suggesting that he should be upgrading his home internet or that should cost the city anything. It's a 30 minute commute for an essential worker, not driving to Wellington. It's hardly unique and it's not like Goff is asking for anything.

I got the impression that the article was making out that his broadband should be fantastic (more so that he's the mayor) but it's not, due to his location - wherever in Clevedon it is, hence why he has to commute every day...but couldn't he work from the Manukau office or something?

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#2466626 20-Apr-2020 20:51

If the below is up to date, then he is 4km from the cabinet @ 360 Creightons Road. So slow ADSL.

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#2466631 20-Apr-2020 21:03

coffeebaron:

If the below is up to date, then he is 4km from the cabinet @ 360 Creightons Road. So slow ADSL.

https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/organisation/auckland-mayor-phil-goff/about

3.5mbps.......

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#2466646 20-Apr-2020 21:45

nztim:

coffeebaron:

If the below is up to date, then he is 4km from the cabinet @ 360 Creightons Road. So slow ADSL.

https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/organisation/auckland-mayor-phil-goff/about

3.5mbps.......

By the time you add a few connections and lots of people on the net you will be lucky to get half that.

On any normal day his internet would probably be sufficient, however these are not ordinary days, he is probably having 20 or more video conferences a day.

I think this is a necessary evil.

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#2466647 20-Apr-2020 21:50

Just looks like a bit of news space looking for an article, plus Phil wanted to show off that he had a nice flash Environmentally Correct (EC instead of PC) EV to to cruise to and from the building with the nice 27th floor view of his patch.

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#2466702 20-Apr-2020 22:37

coffeebaron:

If the below is up to date, then he is 4km from the cabinet ..... So slow ADSL.

https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/organisation/auckland-mayor-phil-goff/about

Solid sleuthing there Mr Baron.. and yes exchange connected. CCM shows it isn't the best.

Plus looking at mobile coverage both Vodafone and Spark show poor coverage.

But a point to point link with a neighbor down the road who can get VDSL would be the best option IMHO.

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