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Topic # 94906 21-Dec-2011 14:32
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Hi guys,
I couldn't find the Australian Telecommunications or Other forum so I oosted here, please move if required.
 
I recently moved across the pond and have just rented a house in Adelaide and signed up to iiNet for broadband and phone and a shint Bob2 phone/router, 200GB plan, all very nice until i look at the attenuation of 46Ddb and 1.5Mbps down and 256Kbps up...... They are going to change mme to their Turbo plan which they have still to explain to me what it is, other than "faster". Can anyone decypher the following for me?Laughing


Segment Id: 1
B2B 141408425 in delayed mode
B2B
SQ: DSL-L2
Service Number: 0882348630
SQ Response: Pass
SQ Results
Result: 256Kbps/64Kbps (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Result: 512Kbps/512Kbps (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Result: 512Kbps/128Kbps (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Result: 1.5Mbps/256Kbps (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Result: Open 1 (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Result: Open 2 (Zone 1) , Pass , Y002 , DSL is supported
Cable Details:
transmissionPathStatus : C
cablePairRecord : 0
pairType : M
pairKey : WESA0100270613
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : CPIUT , cableLength : 413, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : APIUT , cableLength : 401, cableGauge : 0.52
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : PIUT , cableLength : 422, cableGauge : 0.64
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : PIUT , cableLength : 1682, cableGauge : 0.64
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : PIUT , cableLength : 270, cableGauge : 0.64
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : PIUT , cableLength : 513, cableGauge : 0.64
cableSectionGroup : 0
CableType : PIUT , cableLength : 3, cableGauge : 0.40

cablePairRecord : 1
pairType : O
pairKey : WESAP167 0019
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : PEIUT , cableLength : 3, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : CPFUT , cableLength : 145, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : CPFUT , cableLength : 77, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : CPFUT , cableLength : 44, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : PEIFLI , cableLength : 77, cableGauge : 0.40
cableSectionGroup : 1
CableType : PEILI , cableLength : 26, cableGauge : 0.40

Cheers

Stuart

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  Reply # 560338 21-Dec-2011 16:37
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Looks like your phone line is under 3km, does that sound right? But looks like narrow gauge wires have increased the attenuation to 46dB and make the line perform as if its much longer, so don't expect to get much more than 1.5Mbps downstream. They might be able to put you on a long reach profile if it's not stable enough.

The 1.5Mbps thing is a plan they have for Telstra's wholesale service since they don't have their own DSL gear in your area. Their website says "Turbo Pack ? $10 per month to upgrade from 1.5Mbps/256kbps to ADSL2+ speeds", so you get whatever speed your modem can synchronise at (less the overhead of course) without being limited by Telstra's cheaper plans. At least you should get faster upstream because thats less sensitive to distance, but ask them what you need to pay if the downstream speed is not much different.

Does your modem have any ADSL statistics such as ADSL datarate? If its more than 1.5M then its an indication of your expected "turbo" possibilities. You can improve your chances if you have a master splitter installed on the incoming phone line to give you a dedicated ADSL outlet and pre-filtering all other phone outlets.

Hope it works out. Let us know if it doesnt, iiNet might look in on the forum if we ask them nicely.




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  Reply # 560342 21-Dec-2011 16:44
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Thanks for that, makes it all clear. The house has one phone socket and the router provided is iiNets Bob2 with VOIP handset with PTSN fallover, filter is in the phone socket, one cable for ADSL and one goes into the fallover socket on the BOB2.

The bob2 is oohh shiny :-)

they say I am 4.06kms from exchange but everything I look at says about 3.6km as the crow flies its about 2.7kms from the Exchange. But there is the River Torrens to contend with :-)

I will see how the Turbo goes in 2-5 business days (probably in the new year :-) )

Hopefully it will be fast enough for their Fetch TV which looks kinda neat

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  Reply # 560358 21-Dec-2011 17:37
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www.whirlpool.net.au = www.geekzone.co.nz




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  Reply # 560360 21-Dec-2011 17:43
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Thanks Don, I just stumbled across it Sealed

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  Reply # 560391 21-Dec-2011 18:57
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It's pretty safe to sum things up and say that overall Australian broadband is worse than NZ when it comes to performance. Most people simply don't realise what a massive impact the cabinetisation project in NZ has had.




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  Reply # 560393 21-Dec-2011 19:06
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I will post modem stats when I get home. I wonder what the people in the next block get. The will be 5jm from the nearest exchange. I am only a 15 minute drive or less from the center of Adelaide lol

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  Reply # 560394 21-Dec-2011 19:07
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Any idea when the NBN will pass your house?




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  Reply # 560395 21-Dec-2011 19:10
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No idea at the moment. I will try and find out. I will unlikely reach my 200gb a month. I will test YouTube when I get home. The worst I got in Auckland was about 5Mbps adsl1

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  Reply # 560397 21-Dec-2011 19:18
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sbiddle: Any idea when the NBN will pass your house?



Cruel question. ;)




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  Reply # 560401 21-Dec-2011 19:33
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I quite liked the question. All the sites I've looked at haven't mentioned it, but I haven't specifically searched. However when I put my address in many sites they all say adsl2. But hey I might get 2Mbps when the Turbo kicks in lol

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  Reply # 560402 21-Dec-2011 19:35
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DonGould:
sbiddle: Any idea when the NBN will pass your house?



Cruel question. ;)


Especially if the Liberals abort the whole NBN programme.




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  Reply # 560407 21-Dec-2011 19:52
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It's looking more and more unlikely I will be getting iinet's full Fetch IPtv package :-( you need 4-5 Mbps for that

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  Reply # 560408 21-Dec-2011 19:56
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wdoa: It's looking more and more unlikely I will be getting iinet's full Fetch IPtv package :-( you need 4-5 Mbps for that


pffft...  give the $20/mbit CVC pricing, I can't wait to see the project rolled out.






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  Reply # 560461 21-Dec-2011 22:05
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Don, showing my ignorance, but I really do not know what your last post means :-)

(This is basically all the usefull ino I could get.
Modem stats

INTERNET
ADSL: CONNECTED
Mode: G.992.1 (G.DMT)
Download: 1536 Kbps.
Upload: 256 Kbps.
WAN IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255
Gateway: 203.215.11.249
Primary DNS: 203.0.178.191
Secondary DNS: 203.215.29.191


Status:
Configured Current
Line Status Automatic Up
Link Type Automatic G.992.1 (G.DMT)

[Go Top]


Data Rate:
Upstream Downstream
Actual Data Rate 256 (Kbps.) 1536 (Kbps.)

[Go Top]


Operation Data / Defect Indication:
Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 8 dB 27 dB
Attenuation 27 dB 46 dB

Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
CRC Error 0 0
HEC Error 0 0


Runtime Code Version: BoB2200
Boot Code Version: 1.0.37-106.17
ADSL Modem Code Version: A2pD030n.d23a
LAN MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Wireless MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
WAN MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Hardware Version: A610A354067R_R3
Serial Num: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Build Time: 2011.05.30-02:34:45

1.Internet configuration

This modem supports upto 8 connection types. To setup your connection type click on a wan configuration in column 1.

Wan Configuration number VPI/VCI Encapsulation Protocol in use
Wan Configuration number Ethernet or VPI/VCI Encapsulation Protocol in use
one 8/35 LLC PPPoE
two -/- --- ---
three -/- --- ---
four -/- --- ---
five -/- --- ---
six -/- --- ---
seven -/- --- ---
eight -/- --- ---


2.Select ADSL setting to connect to your ISP.

Select a standard that your modem should connect to your ISP's DSLAM, or select automatic to have your modem select the best standard based on your distance from your exchange and type of DSLAM you have in your local exchange: AutomaticT1.413 Issue 2G.992.1 (G.DMT)G.992.3 (ADSL2)G.992.5 (ADSL2+)G.992.5_M (ADSL2+M)




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  Reply # 560469 21-Dec-2011 22:15
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Youtube buffering every 20 seconds for about 2 seconds at 720p but fine at.. what is it 480p?

Some other streaming sites I visit are fine!

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