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# 98455 28-Feb-2012 20:47

Hey!
We are on a Telecom package that gives us 50GB of broadband a month for about $105 + phone line. The speeds jump around between 5 and 2 MBit/s for download and 0.5~ MBit/s for upload, recently 2 MBit/s is far more common :(.

We had a guy from the local ISP YNet come and check for line of sight, we saw symmetric 20Megabit/second results on speed test!
I run a server so upload is important. The only downside is YNet is a lot more expensive, we will probably keep a regular phone instead of getting VOIP (mainly due to the fact that regular older land line phones work in power cuts).

So should we get YNet?
Also does YNet have backup power for its stations? (Obviously we will need something to run our equipment but that is a waste if they can't run theirs).
Edit: Oops. Forgot to say I'm on Waiheke Island.

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# 588017 28-Feb-2012 20:54

Sure you don't mean Xnet? Never heard of Ynet. They could be resellers.

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# 588018 28-Feb-2012 20:54

bbqroast: So should we get YNet?

Anyone here would need a lot more information that this to help you. First WHERE ARE YOU? Without knowing where are you it's impossible to have any idea of the quality of service you could have.

Next would be good to post some of your modem statistics.

And most important about speed - check the house wiring - this includes checking wiring, splitters, filters, alarms, Sky TV and other stuff that may be connected to your line and causing slow speeds.

Also, when you run speedtests is your PC connected via ethernet or WiFi? WiFi is prone to interference and it cannot be used as a reference when it comes to speed.

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# 588028 28-Feb-2012 21:15

Could be referring to these guys:
http://ynet.co.nz/

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# 588035 28-Feb-2012 21:19

bbqroast: Hey!
We are on a Telecom package that gives us 50GB of broadband a month for about $105 + phone line. The speeds jump around between 5 and 2 MBit/s for download and 0.5~ MBit/s for upload, recently 2 MBit/s is far more common :(.

).

you should check if you are on the best plan first. You can get 60GB including phoneline for $105 from Telecom ($115if you are rural).

You must be on an old plan as they haven't had a 50GB plan for absolutely ages.

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# 588036 28-Feb-2012 21:26

Ok it is definitely near 50GB probably 60GB.

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# 588042 28-Feb-2012 21:43

Short answer is Yes.

If these are the guys I'm thinking of, I know they buy quite a bit of gear off one of my wholesalers. I'd ask them to help you make contact with some reference customers.

But I'd also ask them what sure of service assurance they're offering. I think you'd find that if it doesn't work well they won't be holding you to the service at all.

The upload will be good for your server.

As for power, pfft.... I'm sure their base does have some back up but you should ask them directly, I'm sure they'd tell you.

As for power outages at your place, well in the world we're moving into everyone is going to be using fibre eventually that has the same issue.

Mobile phones are for emergency calling. Seriously, I'm in Christchurch and we don't rely on fixed line services, that's just silly. We rely on texting and mobile calling each time the big ones hit and the power goes out.

Most of us have cordless phones which don't work when the power is out and we quickly found that if you're on a cabinet based phone service then those fail after a time as well.

At my place we're all VoIP now and we have a small UPS to back up the router/modem and an inverter to plug into the car if we need to.

348 7235 - land line never went off line on Feb 22 because when the power went out the number just rang directly on my mobile, which was really handy.

Hope this helps.

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# 588404 29-Feb-2012 16:09

DonGould:

348 7235 - land line never went off line on Feb 22 because when the power went out the number just rang directly on my mobile, which was really handy.

Now I know who to call in the wee hours when I'm bored at work, thanks Don!

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# 588435 29-Feb-2012 16:50

DonGould: [snip]
Most of us have cordless phones which don't work when the power is out and we quickly found that if you're on a cabinet based phone service then those fail after a time as well. [snip]

Please define "cabinet based phone service". I'm unaware of any such services that 'fail after a time' (after a quake knocks out power)..

There were some landlines that were (understandably) knocked out by huge copper cable bundle being literally ripped apart...

Cellphones are brilliant in emergencies often, but try telling someone how great a cellphone is if the only tower that they can use falls into a hole in the ground, or if their battery is flat.

Many people (including myself) still have a landline because it's more reliable than anything else. I don't even give my number out to anyone, and the ringer is permanently set to silent... but I do have it...

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# 588471 29-Feb-2012 18:39

Talkiet: Please define "cabinet based phone service". I'm unaware of any such services that 'fail after a time' (after a quake knocks out power)..

There were some landlines that were (understandably) knocked out by huge copper cable bundle being literally ripped apart...

Cellphones are brilliant in emergencies often, but try telling someone how great a cellphone is if the only tower that they can use falls into a hole in the ground, or if their battery is flat.

Services supplied from the cabinet at the end of my road failed if I recall correctly, hence why I was stringing cables over roofs that day.

Cellphones are brilliant I agree and I think we should put up many more towers so that the issue is less of an issue.

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# 588472 29-Feb-2012 18:40

kingjj: Now I know who to call in the wee hours when I'm bored at work, thanks Don!

...or you could randomly pick anyone of the millions and millions of numbers in the whois database.

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# 588494 29-Feb-2012 19:20

DonGould: [snip]
Cellphones are brilliant I agree and I think we should put up many more towers so that the issue is less of an issue.

Presumably this massive extra investment should be done with no impact to end user pricing or network expansion in new locations?

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# 588509 29-Feb-2012 19:36

Talkiet:
DonGould: [snip]
Cellphones are brilliant I agree and I think we should put up many more towers so that the issue is less of an issue.

Presumably this massive extra investment should be done with no impact to end user pricing or network expansion in new locations?

Cheers - N

Getting way off topic Neil, so I think we'll leave it unless you wanted to start a thread somewhere.

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# 588562 29-Feb-2012 21:23

Talkiet:
Cellphones are brilliant in emergencies often, but try telling someone how great a cellphone is if the only tower that they can use falls into a hole in the ground

As opposed to telephone exchanges and miles of telephone poles and wires, which are invulnerable of course.

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# 588568 29-Feb-2012 21:36

Screeb:
Talkiet:
Cellphones are brilliant in emergencies often, but try telling someone how great a cellphone is if the only tower that they can use falls into a hole in the ground

As opposed to telephone exchanges and miles of telephone poles and wires, which are invulnerable of course.

Read back a few messages when I acknowledged that some landlines were also taken out.

Of course I could also talk about how landlines don't require power at the house to be on and how the integrated location services will identify to emergency services where you are, even if you can't talk (or don't know).

I live in Chch, and I was in the area of town with some of the longer power outages (over 2 weeks) in February. I have a generator and I was recharging a lot of people's mobile phones from up and down the street but in my area the landlines never went out. Mobile was spotty for a few days (both major providers) and many people did have their mobiles run out of juice.

I'm a HUGE fan of mobile voice and data, I couldn't live or work without them... I also have more knowledge of mobile and fixed voice networks than most and I still choose to have a landline... just in case. If there was a proper emergency and I could attempt ONE call only and I was in a position to pick up a fixed line or a mobile, I would pick up the fixed line... Every. Single. Time.

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# 588610 29-Feb-2012 22:31

DonGould:
kingjj: Now I know who to call in the wee hours when I'm bored at work, thanks Don!

...or you could randomly pick anyone of the millions and millions of numbers in the whois database.

I could... but I'm sure you would always be up for a good debate on the the NZ Telecommunications landscape, even at 3am. Where as others may not be so understanding...

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