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Topic # 228544 11-Jan-2018 07:53
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Hey guys,

 

I am investigating my next Desktop Upgrade. I am not a gamer but spend a lot of time on Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop (less so Adobe Premiere but a little bit).

 

From what I gather Lightroom doesn't use the GPU much but needs raw CPU power with clock speed being more important for normal real time operations (switching images, applying editing, etc..) and # of Core being important for generating previews and exporting images.

 

I seem to be set on a 7700K as it only has 4 cores and therefore a higher clock speed than the 8700K (6 cores). I intend to OC that CPU as much as I can while retaining decent stability.

 

My current Desktop Case is mATX format but could be open to getting a new one if I end up with a better Mobo option.

 

I don't necessarily need a new GPU as I have an OK one and don't really game but I am after a good Motherboard (needs Z270 chipset for OC, as I understand it) that is preferably mATX. Support for m.2 SSD would be a plus for future upgradeability. For Ram, I would want at least 16GB of DDR4, around the 3200Mhz speed.

 

Then comes CPU cooling: I don't know much about what I will need to ensure decent OverClocking. I see there are liquid cooling CPU coolers but having never used one, I don't know what to look for.

 

Budget: trying to keep it $1200-$1500 which I think is realistic seeing as I really only need CPU+Mobo+Ram+Cooler

 

Could anybody share opinions on these?

 

Thanks a lot,

 

Guillaume


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  Reply # 1936018 11-Jan-2018 09:35
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Have you looked at the AMD Ryzen CPUs? they are really great value for performance. 





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  Reply # 1936021 11-Jan-2018 09:40
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it seems, from all benchmarks, that the intels are better for single task duties ie gaming, and the Ryzens are much better on multi tasking.





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  Reply # 1936024 11-Jan-2018 09:45
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vexxxboy:

 

 

 

 

 

it seems, from all benchmarks, that the intels are better for single task duties ie gaming, and the Ryzens are much better on multi tasking.

 

 

 

 

Yep, Ryzen are still good at gaming, just not quite as good. For OP's purposes I would say Ryzen is probably a better value proposition. 





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  Reply # 1936031 11-Jan-2018 09:50
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Most of the research I have done seems to indicate that the 7700K would have the edge over a Ryzen Proc. Although not totally out of the question, I would probably prefer an intel proc

 

eg: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4186083


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  Reply # 1937308 11-Jan-2018 17:32
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lokhor:

 

Have you looked at the AMD Ryzen CPUs? they are really great value for performance. 

 

 

Didn't I see that they are reducing the price?  Yep, here you are:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-lowers-prices-ryzen-threadripper,36268.html

 

Wow that makes them _seriously_ competitive. 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1937309 11-Jan-2018 17:55
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Guillaume, Puget Systems is the go to place for information on content creation hardware.  They test all the usual suspects on all the software most people use in that field, which is useful as what works for one app, does not always work for another.  Photoshop and Lightroom are lightly threaded, so clock speed is all important.  We have been advising the 8700K for Photoshop, After Effects and Lightroom on the Premiere Pro Hardware forum, but with the proviso that it only has 16 PCIe lanes, so you need to look carefully at your storage requirements.  That means reading reviews, or downloading motherboard manuals, to see what trade-offs are made between M.2, SATA, GPU etc.

 

Have a look through yourself.  It's great reading.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/all_articles.php

 

The Ryzen 7 1800X has 24 PCIe lanes, and two more cores than the 8700K, but has a much lower clock speed, so it is roundabouts and swings.  Note, I don't use Lightroom, so I am not the best person to pick a relevant benchmark.