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KyleCoco

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# 209100 12-Mar-2017 19:58

Hey Guys,

I'm in in the early stages of having a house built in Kerikeri (Northland, NZ)

It's quite a long brick clad home (Approx 30M long) I'll attach a floor plan if that helps.

We'll have rural broadband, I'm told mobile 3G is a better option than copper ADSL in the area but I'll do more research on that as well.

Since we'll possibly have pretty poor broadband speeds, I'm a little worried about loosing even more speed trying to set up and rely on WiFi from one end of the house to the other.

What are my best options for having Internet access in each of the bedrooms, study and theatre via Ethernet? I'll obviously still want WiFi for mobile devices.

Don't be deceived.. its a massive flash looking house plan but the wife will have me on a tiny budget hahaha..

It will be awesome to hear your guys opinions on the best way to approach this, I imagine there is more way than one to do this.

Cheers in advance for your advice!!

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# 1735406 12-Mar-2017 20:18

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Put an access point on the ceiling down by bed 2 and the toilet, and another one between the oven and laundry door in the hall. that should cover most/all of the house with good speed. also make sure you get good access points like the cambium e400, unify AC lite, or the xclaim xi-3. that should cover off wifi

bedrooms should have a cuple of network ports, Home Theatre 4 or so by where the devices are, same with any other main TV location. you will need a network cabinet somewhere to house a patch panel, the modem/router, a switch or 2 to run everything.

done skimp on the wiring during the build as its the cheapest time to do it, and make sure you have a good plan if you are goign to get someone else to do it for you.

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# 1735410 12-Mar-2017 20:26

Our house has 12 network ports. The fittings also have coax. Even one in the stairwell. For a new build its easy and cheap. The patch panel is in the garage and has a booster for the coax. The cost of doing that later would I imagine be huge.

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# 1735411 12-Mar-2017 20:26

Your plan looks quite similar to mine, though I'm 'only' in 260m2 so 25m long :)

When my house was building last year, I ran my own Cat5e and HD cables. I also added a triple Ethernet outlet to each of the the study, lounge and Family room (TV placement) and created a central Hub in the garage "star cabinet" which backs a hall cupboard where I centralized all my TV/AV gear (like they do in showhomes)

This allowed me to hard link my smart TV's, Apple TV's and even later potentially have ethernet cables to run modern 4KTV when I next upgrade the screen.

After all that... we now run everything EXCEPT the TV/AV gear on WiFi (rural so no interference here) and even the Study is now a spare/Rumpus room instead.....

BEst plan is to have at least a few spare cables actually IN the roof linked back to your hub area and allow for roof mount AP's like the Ubiquity I have awaiting install to boost the far end of the house' WiFi signal...

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# 1735413 12-Mar-2017 20:27

I have a mate who used to do cabling for a job, I'm not sure how clued up he is about what is needed, or if he was just good at following a plan and fitting in small spaces.

That's why I'm nailing down what I need now, So I can organize access to the site at lock up stage so I can run all the network cabling before all the wall linings go up.

I'll look up those APs now and make a note of them so I know what I'm in for... Might start siphoning funds away from the house now so I'll have money to buy the tech I need.

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# 1735415 12-Mar-2017 20:33

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My (about to start) 200m2 build has about 32 ports before variations, as well as eth cable to about 6 eave locations for IP cameras. You can't put too much in - even if it's left looped in wall behind blanking plates initially.

Jase's wifi recommendations are sound.

Cheers -N

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KyleCoco

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# 1735421 12-Mar-2017 20:44

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Wow... I just looked up those APs. Don't know how I'll hide those funds from the wifey.... Looks like I'd go for the more affordable Unifi AC lite units... They look nice as well which always helps. I'm currently using an old EnGenius ECB9500 as an AP range extender. I got it free off a facebook page. looks like I'll have to step up my game to roll with you guys hahahaha.

So buy a box of Cat5e?? and 2 or 3 APs, I'm thinking a 3rd in the garage as the 3rd single bay will be my man cave/distillery/brewery. then start hunting up some serious hardware like a cabinet and stuff that I need to put in it, I'll need more clarification on what that is...

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# 1735424 12-Mar-2017 20:51

i think you will still be fine in the 3rd bay of the garage, not full speed of the wifi but still full speed of your internet :)

just keep your eye out for second hand stuff, they come up from time to time. but its best to stay with the same manufacture as it makes usability and control of them easier

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# 1735425 12-Mar-2017 20:55

Jase2985:

i think you will still be fine in the 3rd bay of the garage, not full speed of the wifi but still full speed of your internet :)

just keep your eye out for second hand stuff, they come up from time to time. but its best to stay with the same manufacture as it makes usability and control of them easier

I'll just be streaming music and the odd Youtube video from there.

I work in the local Courthouse and there are a heap of tech guys in there upgrading lots of stuff. Maybe I'll hit them up to see what they have left over from the MOJ lying around in the back of there van... Just got to make sure I know what things are worth I guess...

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# 1735433 12-Mar-2017 21:10

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if its being replaced it will be old stuff which will mean old technology so probably not worth it.

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# 1735434 12-Mar-2017 21:13

Jase2985:

if its being replaced it will be old stuff which will mean old technology so probably not worth it.

Yeah you're probably onto something there... The MOJ doesn't spend money on upgrades unless it absolutely has to!!!

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# 1735452 12-Mar-2017 22:22

Do I need say 4 Rj45 sockets behind each TV? ie. one for the TV, One for each game console and set top box? or just one and just put a separate 5 or 8 port switch?

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# 1735453 12-Mar-2017 22:23

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Make sure you get cabling and antenna mount up for RBI during the build. New houses can be a pain running cabling for RBI once fully built.

Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster and even more now as they are upgrading their rural Conklins. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend $195 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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# 1735454 12-Mar-2017 22:26

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Quick thought - your theatre room looks like it's too small to have a good sized projector screen and the shape looks like you have the diagonal wall designed for a nice big (65" ish) flat panel.

If that's so, at least consider squaring off the room to give you the option to have a 100" plus screen up against a wall. Trust me, picture quality be damned - a good projector and screen is much more enjoyable for watching movies.

Cheers - N

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# 1735466 12-Mar-2017 23:13

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You might want to consider cat 6 instead of cat 5e. About 20% more than cat 5e but getting to be the standard offering now. We do all new buildings in cat 6 haven't put in cat 5e for ages

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# 1735488 13-Mar-2017 01:23

KyleCoco:
Do I need say 4 Rj45 sockets behind each TV? ie. one for the TV, One for each game console and set top box? or just one and just put a separate 5 or 8 port switch?

While you could use a small switch if eccisary, a single wireeach os much tidier and more useful as time goes by and you may wand to dual bond them orsomething as technology progresses.

Definitely think squaring that room is a good idea too, btw!

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