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Topic # 223341 24-Sep-2017 17:17
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Thought it was a fault, turns out it is deliberate.  Why Apple, why?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off





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  Reply # 1872114 24-Sep-2017 17:42
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  Reply # 1872117 24-Sep-2017 17:47
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Why even bother having an on/off toggle - just for show obviously.

 

What if you don't want or need either of those radios on to save power? Clearly Apple knows better then their customers.


 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1872124 24-Sep-2017 18:24
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Can obviously still turn it off via settings, but then begs the question why bother including it in the Control Centre. We will assimilate!!!




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  Reply # 1872125 24-Sep-2017 18:24
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I have noticed that enabling airplane mode, it also doesn't disable bluetooth, as that is still green. I wonder if it also has bugs. It is disappointing that none of this is configurable.

 

 

 

Notice that the podcast app has also been butchered, and it is now so confusing to use.


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  Reply # 1872142 24-Sep-2017 19:12
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mattwnz:

 

Notice that the podcast app has also been butchered, and it is now so confusing to use.

 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I hate it how it shows what I've added to my queue, and then after that there is a whole lot of random stuff that I can't remove.


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  Reply # 1872146 24-Sep-2017 19:27
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alasta:

 

 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I hate it how it shows what I've added to my queue, and then after that there is a whole lot of random stuff that I can't remove.

 

 

Good thing there's 3rd party options to provide alternatives to the things people do or don't like. 


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  Reply # 1872148 24-Sep-2017 19:27
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scuwp: Can obviously still turn it off via settings, but then begs the question why bother including it in the Control Centre. We will assimilate!!!


Until 5am in morning, according to article at 5am everything turns back on again, maybe airplane mode may be more effective, just then it's over kill as lose calls and texts.

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  Reply # 1872151 24-Sep-2017 19:32
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gehenna:

 

alasta:

 

 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I hate it how it shows what I've added to my queue, and then after that there is a whole lot of random stuff that I can't remove.

 

 

Good thing there's 3rd party options to provide alternatives to the things people do or don't like. 

 

 

 

 

I have tried a lot of the third party ones, and none were as good as the previous version of the podcast app. Companies seem to dumb apps down. Even the new app store isn't great companies to the previous one, where you now have these large cards filling up the screen that you have to scroll past. I am wondering if it is going to affect app developers getting their apps out there.




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  Reply # 1872264 25-Sep-2017 08:20
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scuwp: Can obviously still turn it off via settings, but then begs the question why bother including it in the Control Centre. We will assimilate!!!


Until 5am in morning, according to article at 5am everything turns back on again, maybe airplane mode may be more effective, just then it's over kill as lose calls and texts.

 

The way I read that is that if you use the Control Centre to turn these off (which it actually doesn't) it will remain connected to any existing devices, but will not search or connect with new ones.  Upon reaching 5am or when re-starting, the device will override your choice and automatically turn on the search and connect functions again.  If you turn these off in the settings however they will remain off (which has been my experience)

 

If only they could invent a mechanism that allows headphones to connect manually with the device...  

 

 

 

 

 

    





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  Reply # 1873534 27-Sep-2017 11:13
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I hope they change this back to how it use to be, it's annoying, this is the first time ever I have had mixed feelings about a IOS update.




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  Reply # 1873582 27-Sep-2017 11:55
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Sadly iOS update (11.0.1) out today makes no changes to this.  Looks like this is the new norm, off switches that don't actually turn things off, and when your not looking automatically turn on again.      





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  Reply # 1873583 27-Sep-2017 11:56
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scuwp:

 

Sadly iOS update (11.0.1) out today makes no changes to this.  Looks like this is the new norm, off switches that don't actually turn things off, and when your not looking automatically turn on again.      

 

 

 

 

I'm sure they will change it back after they get enough complaints


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  Reply # 1873587 27-Sep-2017 11:58
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To be fair in Control Centre is does actually say Not Connected if you turn off the BT button.  It doesn't say BT Off or anything.  So I guess this is mainly a problem for people who come from iOS pre-11 and expect a certain behaviour with those buttons.  With new users it's just the norm.  

 

Not defending the change though, I think it's stupid.  For someone like my wife who has a BT enabled key to get into her workplace, she needs BT off otherwise the key battery keeps getting drained by the phone's BT.  Don't ask me why, it's a bad design on the key.  So now when she gets out of the car (where phone was BT connected) it's a lengthier process to turn BT off so her key isn't impacted.  If she forgets.... well I'll be the one getting the call to drop off the spare key I imagine.


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  Reply # 1873591 27-Sep-2017 12:12
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mattwnz:

 

I have noticed that enabling airplane mode, it also doesn't disable bluetooth, as that is still green.

 

 

This does make a lot of sense though - especially when most people who are listening to music on newer devices will be using Bluetooth headphones.

 

I'd be surprised if many (if any) airlines still prohibited Bluetooth.

 

 


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  Reply # 1873639 27-Sep-2017 13:38
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It does disconnect from any Wifi network for me - if I want to use mobile data rather than work’s Wifi I can.

If the Bluetooth radio in this passive state is detectable I bet a few councils will be rejoicing with the extra tradfic flow stats now available.

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