Voda --> Slingshot, a good move??

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callum62

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Topic # 23654 5-Jul-2008 17:42

Hi,

Im still considering dumping vodafone in favour of Slingshots naked DSL.

I am in the red network under voda, but have yet to be migrated over from my old IHUG plan.

I am a moderate inet user.....somehwere around 4-10 GB's per month, 10 being the max probably

Speedtests now show around 2500-3000kbs in AKL and around 1000kbs international.

I do also call the Uk quite alot as most of my family is still there, and notice with Naked DSL from SS, you get a free VOIP line, with only 5c per min for calls to the UK (I pay 18c at the mo thro digiplus).

On the face of it, it seems like a easy choice to switch ($79.95 for 6GB FS/FS) with only $10 to add 10GBS.......at the mo I pay $90 for fs/128 and 20GBs.

However I would save on calls also from SS.

Anyone any reviews/advice on the speed I would expect moving onto FS/FS and Slingshot in general?

Thanks Heaps,

Cal

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Reply # 143257 5-Jul-2008 17:49

You might want to have a read of this thread on GP:

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/319260/?s=

If you do still decide to go ahead, at least you will be doing it with your eyes open to the potential problems that may arise.

callum62

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Reply # 143260 5-Jul-2008 17:55

Thanks for the link mate, interesting reading, but in reality that seems like 1 guy?

wonder if anyone else has experienced as much problems as him?

in general, how are SS seen as a ISP??

Thanks

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Reply # 143261 5-Jul-2008 18:33

Seems a little unclear from your post as to whether you are actually connected to Red Network or just in the area?

How far are you from the exchange and what is the attenuation on your line? - what is the attainable line rate in your router settings?

Haven't checked the prices you quote but 79.95+10 based upon what you gave written is effectively $90 for only 16Gb vs 20Gb that currently have. You may go to FS/FS but depending factors such of your line while be determinants as to whether you see much improvement and of course when VF does migrate you to their network rather than Telecom Wholesale (assuming you are not currently on Red) you may see a better improvement than you do going to Slingshot via Wholesale.

There are many potentially cheaper ways to call the UK - for example see http://www.kiaoracard.co.nz/kiaora_rates.html as just one example.

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Reply # 143280 5-Jul-2008 21:03

Hi, and thanks.

I am in the red zone on voda, but NOT connected to the red network as yet (awaiting migration, who knows when this will happen).

here are my modem/router stats:

Item	Downstream	Upstream	Unit
SNR Margin	9	36	dB
Line Attenuation	41	20	dB
Data Rate	4777	165	kbps

I think that makes me around 3kms from the exchange.

Interesting link to the phone cards, had never heard of them before.

I think im just a little p'd off with voda right now, as I think its taking ages for the migration to happen.

Also the fact that sometimes I do not use more than 6gb's in a month (saving me $10), then ontop of that I get way better calling rates than now.

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Reply # 143285 5-Jul-2008 21:48

callum62:...
ontop of that I get way better calling rates than now.

Well I would agree 100% with you there. Voda's calling rates are a ripoff compared to what you will get from a VoIP provider. For example:

Land to Mobile 38c per minute vs. 30c from VFX

National Landlines 25c per minute vs. 5c from VFX

Even if you call a Vodafone Mobile it is still 38c which is really stink considering that the call travels over Vodafone's own equipment everywhere except the piece of copper from your house to the exchange (for those on the Red Network).

I decided not to sign up for the Red Network simply because Voda do not offer Naked DSL. You are paying for their overpriced phone service whether you want it or not

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Reply # 143291 5-Jul-2008 22:00

grant_k:
callum62:...
ontop of that I get way better calling rates than now.

Well I would agree 100% with you there. Voda's calling rates are a ripoff compared to what you will get from a VoIP provider. For example:

Land to Mobile 38c per minute vs. 30c from VFX
National Landlines 25c per minute vs. 5c from VFX

Even if you call a Vodafone Mobile it is still 38c which is really stink considering that the call travels over Vodafone's own equipment everywhere except the piece of copper from your house to the exchange (for those on the Red Network).

I decided not to sign up for the Red Network simply because Voda do not offer Naked DSL. You are paying for their overpriced phone service whether you want it or not

They have incredibly high rates indeed.

This article gives me a little hope for Naked DSL by Vodafone, but with a little twist.

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Reply # 143292 5-Jul-2008 22:24

manhinli: This article gives me a little hope for Naked DSL by Vodafone, but with a little twist.

Huh ???

That link just goes to the GZ home page

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Reply # 143293 5-Jul-2008 22:27

Fixed.

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Reply # 143296 5-Jul-2008 23:28

callum62:
in general, how are SS seen as a ISP??

From my experience - they offer cheap data and thats it.

Our household used to use Slingshot for their low bandwidth costs. However we had a lot of stability issues (not accepting username/password) which occured too many times. We weren't happy with the time of the resolution, the forum response (I didn't expect a response, but I also didn't expect an attack), or the explainations behind (it wasn't 'the exchange' as I had a private line with another ISP which had no issues at all going to the same place).

The household has since changed providers and we have had NO issues since then, despite having the same physical cabling, exchange etc. We aren't looking back.

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Reply # 143299 6-Jul-2008 00:21

thanks for all ur responses guys.....gives me something to think about.

I dont really want/need incredibly fast bband.....just a stable connection, and if I can save some money, bonus.

The only time i really need fastish connection is when im watching soccer from back home (streamed live at usually 3am Sat morns from a UK server)....anyone ever done this on SS, and if so, how was the experience?

Ta

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Reply # 143314 6-Jul-2008 09:01

If you're having a hard time choosing, why not look here?

Snap look pretty good (look around the threads here), and you can add an external VoIP service like VFX to many of the plain Naked DSL plans.

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Reply # 143385 6-Jul-2008 16:24

thanks Manhinli.

If I choose snap naked DSL, and then want to add a voip provider, say Xnet....wont I need a phone line rental to begin with?

eg, bump voda and go with snap naked dsl....so only left with a broadband connection and no phone line.

Wouldnt think cause an issue when getting VoIP?

ta

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Reply # 143397 6-Jul-2008 17:27

You don't really need a phone line, unless you're trying to retain your current number.

You can set VFX first, before signing up for Naked DSL.

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