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ArcticSilver

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#57527 16-Feb-2010 17:41

Hey all,

Im wondering if anyone knows about a good colocation provider in NZ?

It would need to have unmetered national (50mbps or greater) and international (2mbps or greater). Paying per GB is not an option.

And a big slap on the wrist for anyone who suggests hosting direct ;P

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#299546 16-Feb-2010 17:47

I am with ICONZ. Not the cheapest one, but reliable. Also perhaps check Data Centre Ltd?

ArcticSilver

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#299550 16-Feb-2010 18:01

Yeah unfortunately it cant be too pricey.

Ill look into Data Center LTD. Did notice them after the pizza evening sponsorship.

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#299553 16-Feb-2010 18:10

I have this list from last time I looked into co-location in NZ

http://www.datacentre.co.nz/

http://www.digiweb.co.nz/public/colocation

http://www.iconz.net.nz/colo/

http://interspeed.co.nz/hosting-colocation.php

http://www.maxnet.co.nz/hosting/high_availability_rackspace.php
http://www.maxnet.co.nz/hosting/premium_rack_space.php

http://www.orcon.net.nz/work/page/co-location

http://www.unleash.co.nz/server-colocation/

http://servers.webdrive.co.nz/colocation.php

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#299560 16-Feb-2010 19:04

Brief outline of some of the options here.

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#299588 16-Feb-2010 21:12

The only colocation/vps host that I found that had free international traffic was Hosting Direct, and I'm *definitely* not recommending them. Most other data centers charge per GB for international traffic, though I'd be keen to hear from others if they've found ones that don't.

My recommendation would be SiteHost - I've been with them for the last 6 months or so and have found them brilliant. Their prices are better than most of the links posted above.

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#299644 16-Feb-2010 23:36

amanzi: Most other data centers charge per GB for international traffic, though I'd be keen to hear from others if they've found ones that don't.

I can confirm that Maxnet will give you at least 3 options,

1. Chosen amount in GB + excess
2. 95th percentile of what you use
3. xx mbps of Dedicated bandwidth with a CIR

When it comes to bandwidth, not all bandwidth is equal so its not an apples to apples comparison, read the fine print if the price seems cheap question whether its contended bandwidth

uktuatara

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#299687 17-Feb-2010 09:23

We've hosted services at a few places and the two that have always found best to deal with and professional service are Maxnet and ICONZ, both have fairly new Datacentres.

Maxnet has architected their Datacentre to the highest quality standards and have tried to take into account any evenutallity that could impact service. Very impressed with the way they tried to customise tyheir co-location offer for exactly what we were after. I like having hosted services in a datacentre that is out of the CBD too.

ICONZ location is great and they a good supply of backup power in the event the Auckland CBD loses power (assuming all the networking equipment in the chain also stays up). They were also really helpful with access and tailoring a solution that fit our needs.

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#299757 17-Feb-2010 13:42

I've been dealing with ICONZ and Orcon for colo in NZ. ICONZ is very stable, although not the fastest. Orcon is the opposite.

No unmetered international traffic, though.

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ArcticSilver

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#299827 17-Feb-2010 16:04

Hmm its looking like we are most likely to go with Orcon due to price.

We cannot pay per GB as the costs are just far too high.

uktuatara

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#299904 17-Feb-2010 19:43

I'm sure Orcon will be great, however I'd advise cuation aboot basing your decision solely on price ... take into account your requirements for availability, physical and remote access, ongoing costs and the rigour in the SLA that they'll adhere to.

I'm sure you've thought of all this but it'd be shame for it to bite you in the butt later on.

ArcticSilver

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#299934 17-Feb-2010 20:55

I have thought of all that, cheers anyway though =).

The problem is cost. This is a start up business and the prices would be too high with the other providers.

It is not in a area where 100% up time is a must.

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#299942 17-Feb-2010 21:29

uktuatara: I'm sure Orcon will be great, however I'd advise cuation aboot basing your decision solely on price ... take into account your requirements for availability, physical and remote access, ongoing costs and the rigour in the SLA that they'll adhere to.

I'm sure you've thought of all this but it'd be shame for it to bite you in the butt later on.

We have a bunch of servers with Orcon - and the biggest downside is that we had to pay every time we needed to visit the machines due to us not having unattended access. We now have unattended access (A fairly painless exercise) and everything is chugging along fine.

We certainly don't have the bandwidth that you require, but the data isn't metered (AFAIK)

Cheers!

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#300013 18-Feb-2010 08:13

wazzageek:
uktuatara: I'm sure Orcon will be great, however I'd advise cuation aboot basing your decision solely on price ... take into account your requirements for availability, physical and remote access, ongoing costs and the rigour in the SLA that they'll adhere to.

I'm sure you've thought of all this but it'd be shame for it to bite you in the butt later on.

We have a bunch of servers with Orcon - and the biggest downside is that we had to pay every time we needed to visit the machines due to us not having unattended access. We now have unattended access (A fairly painless exercise) and everything is chugging along fine.

We certainly don't have the bandwidth that you require, but the data isn't metered (AFAIK)

Cheers!

What did you do (and how much did you pay) to get unattended access?

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#300022 18-Feb-2010 08:34

magu:
wazzageek:
uktuatara: I'm sure Orcon will be great, however I'd advise cuation aboot basing your decision solely on price ... take into account your requirements for availability, physical and remote access, ongoing costs and the rigour in the SLA that they'll adhere to.

I'm sure you've thought of all this but it'd be shame for it to bite you in the butt later on.

We have a bunch of servers with Orcon - and the biggest downside is that we had to pay every time we needed to visit the machines due to us not having unattended access. We now have unattended access (A fairly painless exercise) and everything is chugging along fine.

We certainly don't have the bandwidth that you require, but the data isn't metered (AFAIK)

Cheers!

What did you do (and how much did you pay) to get unattended access?

The nice thing is that we didn't get charged for getting setup - you need to get a criminal check and fill out some forms for Orcon - a short intro course (basically about how to get in / out etc. and about the fire suppressant they use)

Orcon really wants you to have unattended access. Certainly worth it IMO.

uktuatara

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#300038 18-Feb-2010 09:24

I'd just check that you're happy with their criteria for allowing unattended access, and the controls they have for allowing people into the data centre. Not to sound anal, but I don't want EVERYONE getting access into the datacentre where I host my kit.

At the minimum (and they probably do already) they need to have a record of who is going in and out. Plus that security check is a good idea.

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