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old3eyes
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  #331327 18-May-2010 12:51
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ockel:
bazzer:
clevedon: Lots of other people make chocolate.
Vote with your wallet.

What if Cadbury is/was your favourite?  Let me guess, put up or shut up, right?


Cadbury went from being a favourite to not very quickly.  Dont tell me that it was the "environmental" aspect of what they did that got people to vote with their wallets.  That would be like missing the point that green issues were less important, as surveyed, for people in 2009 than 2008 (it was fine until the economy meant that there were suddenly higher priorities than overpaying for organics).
Cadbury got it wrong because they changed the recipe - flavour was very different and it had an awful mouth feel (oil over butter).

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But with chocolate you had a choice of other brands.  Not so with pay TV in NZ..




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  #331329 18-May-2010 12:56
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bazzer: but you should start your own "Sky is worth having at three times the price" thread, you could also call it the "I have more money than sense" thread if you're after an alternative title.


lol yes then we can compare the support scientificly by comparing the thread responses, good idea bazzer...

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  #331335 18-May-2010 13:14
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I thought this thread was complaining about Sky, not complaining about complaining??

Back on topic please.....



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  #331337 18-May-2010 13:16
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bazzer: I'm not sure if you're trying to prove how much disposable income you have to throw around or something, but you should start your own "Sky is worth having at three times the price" thread, you could also call it the "I have more money than sense" thread if you're after an alternative title.


Well we live many miles from town on a rural block that keeps us extremely busy as well as running a business and bringing up a young family. Don't eat out, go to the movies, smoke, or drink a lot etc. So Sky is our entertainment after a very busy and hard days work.
More money than sense - well that's your opinion, not ours. Your a townie, I pressume?

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#331340 18-May-2010 13:20
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clevedon: Well we live many miles from town on a rural block that keeps us extremely busy as well as running a business and bringing up a young family. Don't eat out, go to the movies, smoke, or drink a lot etc. So Sky is our entertainment after a very busy and hard days work.
More money than sense - well that's your opinion, not ours. Your a townie, I pressume?

I guess I'd be glad to be a townie, if that meant I'd have better things to spend $300 a month on than Sky TV!

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  #331347 18-May-2010 13:27

old3eyes:
ockel:
bazzer:
clevedon: Lots of other people make chocolate.
Vote with your wallet.

What if Cadbury is/was your favourite?  Let me guess, put up or shut up, right?


Cadbury went from being a favourite to not very quickly.  Dont tell me that it was the "environmental" aspect of what they did that got people to vote with their wallets.  That would be like missing the point that green issues were less important, as surveyed, for people in 2009 than 2008 (it was fine until the economy meant that there were suddenly higher priorities than overpaying for organics).
Cadbury got it wrong because they changed the recipe - flavour was very different and it had an awful mouth feel (oil over butter).

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But with chocolate you had a choice of other brands.  Not so with pay TV in NZ..


The variants in the US are so similar that despite the choice of brands it all tastes the same. 
So their choice is ? Change the wrapper or switch off?  That doesnt seem to be too different to NZ, does it?  That in a market big enough to support more than 1 paytv company.  Do you think that the recipe that they use might actually work (as seen by 90% of households) or maybe no one is innovative to come up with another prospect. 

Now if one of them changed the recipe for the worse I think that households would vote with their wallets. 
Just like Cadbury, dont you think?




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  #331353 18-May-2010 13:35
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bazzer: I guess I'd be glad to be a townie, if that meant I'd have better things to spend $300 a month on than Sky TV!


Better Sky for a month or three than a overpriced meal in a nobby restaurant in the city for two hours.

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  #331357 18-May-2010 13:39
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Life

Ford vs Holden

National Vs Labour

Sky vs FTA

Life is good!!!

How about lessening the personal attacks guys?


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  #331372 18-May-2010 14:10
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Agreed, I believe it's not about how much you can afford, or is it really worth the money, everyone has different priorities in life, for some; sky is a priority and will get it's use, others will see it a cost as they are out doing other things. 

This will keep going around in circles, everyone has an opinion which is fine.

Personally, I have had Sky since it's inception UHF through to Digital. I have just cancelled it recently but it wasn't on the basis about good or bad value, just don't watch TV as much now and I could rent a number of Blu-ray discs from the local Video Store and watch when I want to for the same money.

Again, comes down to priorities.  




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  #331421 18-May-2010 15:44
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Delorean: Agreed, I believe it's not about how much you can afford, or is it really worth the money, everyone has different priorities in life, for some; sky is a priority and will get it's use, others will see it a cost as they are out doing other things. 

This will keep going around in circles, everyone has an opinion which is fine.

Personally, I have had Sky since it's inception UHF through to Digital. I have just cancelled it recently but it wasn't on the basis about good or bad value, just don't watch TV as much now and I could rent a number of Blu-ray discs from the local Video Store and watch when I want to for the same money.

Again, comes down to priorities.  

And that's pretty much the whole point of this thread...

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  #331436 18-May-2010 16:09
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And I thought that it came down to freedom of choice :)



Oh, and freedom to complain.....................

 
 
 
 

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  #334277 24-May-2010 22:50
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I don't have Sky, I have freeview. Am I happy with freeview? No. Why? It doesn't have the content I want.

Am I happy to pay for this content? Absolutely.

What I'm not happy to do is pay for 100 channels I will never watch. The complaint now becomes with Sky and the services they offer. I refuse to believe that I'm a small minority; TV is not my primary form of entertainment and I don't want it to be.

It's great that people like clevedon fit an almost perfect use case for SKY, and with TV the main form of entertainment I can see how Sky's Basic channels make a lot of sense.

However, SKY have a dominant position that affords them content deals other providers just can't secure. The EU, I believe, has laws to ensure competition in positions like this. We don't, so nobody can even attempt to provide me with the content I want.

So what do I do? Well, I either go without and keep my hard-earned,  or, well, you all know the other option! Surely SKY would make more money from getting SOME business off me?

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  #334328 25-May-2010 08:58
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I am moving house in July and I see the new one has a Sky dish but I'm going to cancel sky as I don't think it's value for money any longer. If I could pick and choose what I wanted I may stay with it. May look at a Sat STB and see what is out there..




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  #335037 26-May-2010 13:26
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I have Sky for one reason and one reason only. English Premiership football in HD. Arsenal are on every week and I can sit down on a Sunday morning with my boy and watch the game in all its glory.

There are only ever two or three movies a month which interest us and anything else we watch is through FreeviewHD on the HTPC.

If it wasnt for the football we wouldnt bother at all with Sky. The amount of American rubbish just astounds us. You would think we were a part of the USA with the amount of programming there is. Thank god for the internet and Match of the Day, Have I Got News For You, Nevermind the Buzzcocks, Survivors, Waking the Dead and Skins is all I can say :)


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  #335097 26-May-2010 15:47
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martyyn: I have Sky for one reason and one reason only. English Premiership football in HD. Arsenal are on every week and I can sit down on a Sunday morning with my boy and watch the game in all its glory.

There are only ever two or three movies a month which interest us and anything else we watch is through FreeviewHD on the HTPC.

If it wasnt for the football we wouldnt bother at all with Sky. The amount of American rubbish just astounds us. You would think we were a part of the USA with the amount of programming there is. Thank god for the internet and Match of the Day, Have I Got News For You, Nevermind the Buzzcocks, Survivors, Waking the Dead and Skins is all I can say :)




 

Ever stopped to think that lots of people think that soccer is rubbish as well??   Most boring game in the world to watch. He who does the best Hollywood wins the game..




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