$22,000 painting quote?

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rayonline

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#140598 14-Feb-2014 15:01

Is this reasonable? The paint has been stripped, so we asked for a quote. 130 metres square building size, 2 floors (ground floor and 1st floor). Only 2 sides needs painting as the front is a store connected to a house behind and one of the side walls doesn't need painting since it's in Wellington, Mt Victoria where the house is sandwiched to the neighbour. The letter did say "quote for a commercial property" so is this normal for a shop with a house connected behind?

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#987310 14-Feb-2014 15:06

I just had a quote to paint an entire weatherboard house including prep for $15000. So yours doesnt sound that flash.

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#987311 14-Feb-2014 15:08

Sound a little high but definitely expect it to be in the mid teens somewhere. Get another quote?

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#987319 14-Feb-2014 15:11

I just had a quote to completely strip lead paint from one wall 1.5 storeys high (ladder accessible), around 6m long, that has one large window in it. The cost was around $2800 inc GST. Heat guns take AGES.

$22K for two walls sounds on the high side, but if they're large walls and need to be completely stripped maybe it's right. I'd expect a high standard of work and a good warranty for that price.

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#987320 14-Feb-2014 15:11

Get another 2 or 3 quotes

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#987322 14-Feb-2014 15:13

Remember quotes take effort for companies, so don't get more quotes than you need.

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#987323 14-Feb-2014 15:15

we painted our house and out buildings, 180sqm ,a year ago and it cost us just over 11,000 and that was one of the higher quotes so that does seem high.

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#987325 14-Feb-2014 15:20

Remember stripping increases the cost hugely, not all houses need it.

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SteveON

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#987328 14-Feb-2014 15:31

yes on the high side... My mother had a quote for a large 2-story house at 17K.

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#987329 14-Feb-2014 15:33

paint already stripped with guy before he had some issues with the window frame rebuild he couldn't do we let him go. quote includes window frame and scaffolding. rebuild of frames are extra per hour of labor and materials

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#987350 14-Feb-2014 15:44

Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.

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#987355 14-Feb-2014 16:00

Dulux seem to have a better undercoat - total prep. I find it sticks better. Sometimes a sealer's needed, mostly for old oily wood.

rayonline

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#987363 14-Feb-2014 16:07

mattwnz: Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.

They did said to the painter that they already have their own paint (Resene Lumberside) and the DryCoat Resene undercoat and he said it was fine. The quote said they provide Resene Sonyx (sp) but I guess they might just discount the paint off the quote maybe $700, haha, paint is not that expensive. Under $200 you can get 10L of Resene paint and maybe $120 for 10L of undercoat.

The work includes prepping etc ...and using a filler for the holes etc ... wire brush cleaning of the window frames rust etc.

The rebuilding of the window frame where required is quoted at $50/hr + material costs.

It did say they're a Master Painter. 6yr gaurantee.

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#987405 14-Feb-2014 17:35

Paint for your size house would not be more than $500. I painted a house last summer an should know. Unless there is wetherboards repairs, you should get a new painter.

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#987411 14-Feb-2014 18:11

timmmay: Dulux seem to have a better undercoat - total prep. I find it sticks better. Sometimes a sealer's needed, mostly for old oily wood.

I have resene paint on my house that was done in the early 90's and has just been repainted, so has lasted over 20 years, and was still in good nick. I didn't need to stri[p it back either, just a sand in the few places that were pealing. Really it had just faded in colour. The only parts that really needed painting were the areas that got lots of sun. But depends on the colour. Personally I do it all myself as all on one level, apart from the roof, which I got a painted in on a labour contract, which they sprayed and cut in with the brush, and only took them about a week.

To the OP, how many hours has been quoted for. Subtracting a bit for paint, and at $50 per hour, that makes 250-300 hours, or nearly 7-8 weeks, which is a very long time for a single small house, and that is at a pretty good pay rate. You also need to reinforce that you don't want trade quality paints. If you ask the people at Resene, they will tell you that trade quality paints won't likely last as long. Remember some companies will quote high if they don't need the work, so get other quotes too. Sure it does take these companies time to quote, but that is a cost of running a business, and I do many quotes myself.

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#987418 14-Feb-2014 18:29

Without knowing the full story, one scenario is they have enough work to be going on with and have just quoted high so that they don't get it, or if they do they can sub-contract it out.

I know a few tradies who do this because if you don't quote people stop asking you

as others have said get a couple more quotes and pick the best price to reputation ratio

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