2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2467631 22-Apr-2020 10:07

Had a friend leave a message on our group chat today asking if we think that people will be letting go of their fishing boats during these difficult times.

I've always known this guy to be very 'financially-economic' with his money, but I think this just crosses the line.

He prefaced it by saying he didn't want to sound selfish ... but I dunno man.

And this is the guy who always bails out of everything as soon as he hears that it comes with a price tag, proudly boasting how he never spends a single cent on 'digital items' etc yet complains about how he can't afford anything because he's always so poor like he's still a 10 year old. Mate, you're an adult with a mortgage. Self-deprecating money humour is reserved for teenagers and broke uni students.

People are worried about their health, their financial stability during this pandemic and you're hoping that one of these desperate people let's go of their fishing boat to make ends meet so you can get a good deal?

It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Life is about living, not trying to save a cent everywhere you go.

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#2467641 22-Apr-2020 10:23

I guess he's also looking forward to getting a good deal on a house after banks foreclose on people who can't pay their mortgage?

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#2467646 22-Apr-2020 10:32

Nevermind schools, does anyone know if flight attendants are now required to quarantine? Previously they were not.

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#2467666 22-Apr-2020 11:03

from CNN

"Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/hydroxychloroquine-veterans-study/index.html

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#2467690 22-Apr-2020 11:20

WolfChop:

Had a friend leave a message on our group chat today asking if we think that people will be letting go of their fishing boats during these difficult times.

I've always known this guy to be very 'financially-economic' with his money, but I think this just crosses the line.

He prefaced it by saying he didn't want to sound selfish ... but I dunno man.

And this is the guy who always bails out of everything as soon as he hears that it comes with a price tag, proudly boasting how he never spends a single cent on 'digital items' etc yet complains about how he can't afford anything because he's always so poor like he's still a 10 year old. Mate, you're an adult with a mortgage. Self-deprecating money humour is reserved for teenagers and broke uni students.

People are worried about their health, their financial stability during this pandemic and you're hoping that one of these desperate people let's go of their fishing boat to make ends meet so you can get a good deal?

It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Life is about living, not trying to save a cent everywhere you go.

My first, perhaps unkind, thought on reading this was "Have you ever BEEN to New Zealand?"! Quite often, Scotsmen have nothing on Kiwis when it comes to moths in the wallet!

I know at least three people who have said to me that they can't wait for Maui, Britz etc to offload all the campers they do not need due to the end of international tourism so that they can buy them up cheap. That is only the same as the fishing boat scenario, I guess.

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#2467695 22-Apr-2020 11:32

Geektastic:

WolfChop:

Had a friend leave a message on our group chat today asking if we think that people will be letting go of their fishing boats during these difficult times.

I've always known this guy to be very 'financially-economic' with his money, but I think this just crosses the line.

He prefaced it by saying he didn't want to sound selfish ... but I dunno man.

And this is the guy who always bails out of everything as soon as he hears that it comes with a price tag, proudly boasting how he never spends a single cent on 'digital items' etc yet complains about how he can't afford anything because he's always so poor like he's still a 10 year old. Mate, you're an adult with a mortgage. Self-deprecating money humour is reserved for teenagers and broke uni students.

People are worried about their health, their financial stability during this pandemic and you're hoping that one of these desperate people let's go of their fishing boat to make ends meet so you can get a good deal?

It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Life is about living, not trying to save a cent everywhere you go.

My first, perhaps unkind, thought on reading this was "Have you ever BEEN to New Zealand?"! Quite often, Scotsmen have nothing on Kiwis when it comes to moths in the wallet!

I know at least three people who have said to me that they can't wait for Maui, Britz etc to offload all the campers they do not need due to the end of international tourism so that they can buy them up cheap. That is only the same as the fishing boat scenario, I guess.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I think it just hit closer to home because this is a person whom I've been friends with for a long time and this time I think it has really cemented my impression of him as a person.

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#2467711 22-Apr-2020 11:48

We have some friends who are so tight, I can't believe that they do not squeak when they walk. I also have a brother like that and it is one of the several reasons he and I do not get on at all. He once hassled me for over 2 years about £10 I borrowed off him (about $20) even going as far as getting my mother to have a go at me.

Being a miser is a deeply unattractive character trait in my view.

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#2467755 22-Apr-2020 12:57

Geektastic: He once hassled me for over 2 years about £10 I borrowed off him (about $20)

So why didn't you just pay him the money you owed?

Being a miser is a deeply unattractive character trait in my view.

Yes.

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#2467789 22-Apr-2020 13:35

frankv:
Geektastic: He once hassled me for over 2 years about £10 I borrowed off him (about $20)

So why didn't you just pay him the money you owed?

runs in the blood?

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#2467861 22-Apr-2020 13:54

Re today's update. As per my post in the data analysis thread, the six new cases announced in the press briefing today included only 4 with a 'Date of report' being yesterday (3) or this morning (1). So down to just 3 (local & total) with a 'Date of report' = 21 Apr (yesterday). Trend vs 'Date of report' looks positive (#2467816).

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#2467862 22-Apr-2020 13:57

Batman: Nevermind schools, does anyone know if flight attendants are now required to quarantine? Previously they were not.

No unless they are symptomatic or have tested positive, as per today's Press briefing

However MoH is working with AirNZ medical officer to insure minimum risk of the virus coming in via this path of transmission

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#2467882 22-Apr-2020 14:13

DS248:

Re today's update. As per my post in the data analysis thread, the six new cases announced in the press briefing today included only 4 with a 'Date of report' being yesterday (3) or this morning (1). So down to just 3 (local & total) with a 'Date of report' = 21 Apr (yesterday). Trend vs 'Date of report' looks positive (#2467816).

And unless I heard it wrong a bunch attributed to the repatriation of known cases from cruise ship. So making the 'real' number like.. 2?

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#2467883 22-Apr-2020 14:13

CNN: US federal agents charge doctor who cited Trump to push hydroxychloroquine 'miracle cure'

It was described as the "magic bullet" to protect against the deadly coronavirus -- a "remarkable clinical phenomenon" that could cure the disease within hours.

In the words of San Diego physician Jennings Staley, the drug hydroxychloroquine, approved to treat conditions ranging from malaria to lupus, was "almost too good to be true."

On his website advertising the product, Staley ... cited President Donald Trump's recent promotion of a French study claiming hydroxychloroquine had overwhelmingly positive results in the fight against Covid-19, according to federal prosecutors.

...In an advertising email message reviewed by the FBI, Staley's purported medical package included dosages of hydroxychloroquine, antibacterial drug Azithromycin, antianxiety treatments, intravenous drips, and the use of a medical hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Staley offered to sell the items as a family pack for $3,995, according to the criminal complaint.

During the recorded phone call with an FBI agent posing as a customer, Staley indicated the drug hydroxychloroquine "cures the disease" associated with coronavirus, according to the complaint.

...At one point, the undercover agent asked Staley, "If I'm hearing you right, if I buy these kits from you, then that's going to pretty much guarantee that neither my kids, my dad, my wife -- any of us -- get sick. And if we are, it's going to cure us, right?"

"Guaranteed," Staley replied, according to the complaint.

...As part of their investigation, the FBI says they visited Staley's website, which offered Covid-19 treatment kits for $595. The website apparently has been taken down. It included language stating "a French study cited by Trump showed 70% of the hydroxychloroquine treated patients tested negative for the Covid-19 virus," according to the complaint.

...Staley was charged Thursday with mail fraud and is scheduled to appear in federal court Friday, according to the Justice Department.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/doctor-charged-hydroxychloroquine-trump/index.html

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#2467886 22-Apr-2020 14:16

clinty:

Batman: Nevermind schools, does anyone know if flight attendants are now required to quarantine? Previously they were not.

No unless they are symptomatic or have tested positive, as per today's Press briefing

However MoH is working with AirNZ medical officer to insure minimum risk of the virus coming in via this path of transmission

Clint

Yikes. Didn't learn anything from the Bluff wedding cluster? SMH!

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#2467889 22-Apr-2020 14:18

clinty:

Batman: Nevermind schools, does anyone know if flight attendants are now required to quarantine? Previously they were not.

No unless they are symptomatic or have tested positive, as per today's Press briefing

However MoH is working with AirNZ medical officer to insure minimum risk of the virus coming in via this path of transmission

Clint

Sounds like it is a potential leak IMO that needs addressing. The border needs to be 'watertight' as per the PMs wording. I would have thought it was common sense for them to at least self isolate, if they are interacting with the public on those flights, some who are coming in who are still testing positive. We know that non-symptomatic people can pass it on. We also have to remember that most cases in NZ can be traced back to people coming into NZ on planes, so we have to learn from what has occurred prior to the lockdown that allowed it to spread.

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