Have you ever bought a second-hand electric car? Would you?

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#2901889 13-Apr-2022 12:51

MikeAqua:

That's cool (🤡). Is part of the battery output reserved for the cooling system or does it have priority over the motors?

It depends on how intense its cooling. Most cars will start by opening some front louvres to allow air to flow over a radiator with pumps pumping coolant through the radiator. If that's not enough then it will use the AC to cool the coolant further. Compared to the motors, the power requirements of the AC are pretty minimal.

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#2901890 13-Apr-2022 12:52

11 hours of charging on a normal plug socket is 22kw, or about 140km+ of range

If you do less than that a day its not an issue.

If you do more you can charge NZs most popular EV at 11kw , so fully charged in about 7 hours from empty with 500km range.

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#2901891 13-Apr-2022 12:53

Jase2985:

Geektastic:

It was intended for my wife's 14km a day commute to the station with periodic 100km trips. The faff of waiting 11 hours for it to charge and so on, combined with the lack of range, prompted her to get rid of it sooner than she had imagined she would.

Turns out petrol is just a great deal easier and more convenient at the moment.

you could have put in a more powerful charger

but it just goes to show that an EV isnt for you. An EV will likely never be as convenient as a petrol car for filling up.

I'd argue that an EV as a commuter is far more convenient than a petrol car. If @Geektastic had actually done as you said and installed a proper charger then recharging would be done overnight while sleeping. Not having to make a detour after/before work to fill up makes EV ownership far more convenient to me.

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#2901894 13-Apr-2022 12:55

Meanwhile the earth gets hotter

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#2901906 13-Apr-2022 13:16

morrisk:

Meanwhile the earth gets hotter

EV's arnt going to solve that issue

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#2901908 13-Apr-2022 13:17

morrisk:

Meanwhile the earth gets hotter

Exactly. And amortizing $$ over the life of the car is short sighted. Why not over 10 generations, using the real cost of CO2?

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#2901910 13-Apr-2022 13:19

Jase2985:

Geektastic:

It was intended for my wife's 14km a day commute to the station with periodic 100km trips. The faff of waiting 11 hours for it to charge and so on, combined with the lack of range, prompted her to get rid of it sooner than she had imagined she would.

Turns out petrol is just a great deal easier and more convenient at the moment.

you could have put in a more powerful charger

but it just goes to show that an EV isnt for you. An EV will likely never be as convenient as a petrol car for filling up.

Possibly, although our electrician advised against it because we live rurally and he felt the house supply was a bit marginal.

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#2901911 13-Apr-2022 13:22

1101:

morrisk:

Meanwhile the earth gets hotter

EV's arnt going to solve that issue

Nothing NZ does will solve that issue!

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#2901916 13-Apr-2022 13:24

Obraik:

Senecio:

I haven't bought a 2nd EV and on the question of whether I would in the future, Yes but not yet.

I promised myself that the next vehicle we bought would be an EV but I wasn't expecting to replace either of our two current vehicles in the next 5 years. However my wife now wants to change her car as its let her down once and I'm contemplating another ICE as I'm just not ready for an EV yet. Five years from now the choice available in the 2nd hand EV market for a 1-2 yr old car with a healthy battery would be so much more than what's available today. Our current solution is that she's no in my car and I'm in hers until we decided what to do.

What's your budget for your wifes car?

Good question. Honestly the budget is flexible to a point, but the more we spend the higher my expectations would be.

Ideal scenario would be a budget of $50k ($40K changeover with a $10K trade in value for current car).

For that I would want

Medium sized SUV
No more than 2yrs old
5yr manufacturer warranty so 3 yrs remaining
High spec model with latest safety features and infotainment technology
Needs to be able to tow a small caravan. Understand I would need to compromise on this so consider it mandatory for ICE and optional for EV

In the world of ICE vehicles there's plenty to pick from. The from runner at the moment is the Ford Escape ST-Line X. It has a conventional 8 speed torque converter automatic gearbox where as most competitors have CVT or DCT transmissions. I test drove one on Monday and it was really nice to drive with the Ecoboost engine and it ticks all of the boxes above.

No so much choice in the world of EVs but 5 years from now I expect there to be much more choice.

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#2901919 13-Apr-2022 13:34

Obraik: I'd argue that an EV as a commuter is far more convenient than a petrol car. If @Geektastic had actually done as you said and installed a proper charger then recharging would be done overnight while sleeping. Not having to make a detour after/before work to fill up makes EV ownership far more convenient to me.

I agree with you. Only exceptions are if you forget to charge your car before a trip, have a prolonged power outage, or suddenly need to get somewhere far away in a short period of time. But that's probably only 2% of the time for most users.

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#2901921 13-Apr-2022 13:35

[In the world of ICE vehicles there's plenty to pick from. The from runner at the moment is the Ford Escape ST-Line X. It has a conventional 8 speed torque converter automatic gearbox where as most competitors have CVT or DCT transmissions. I test drove one on Monday and it was really nice to drive with the Ecoboost engine and it ticks all of the boxes above.

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Ah, Ecoboost, that would convince me

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#2901922 13-Apr-2022 13:38

Senecio:

Good question. Honestly the budget is flexible to a point, but the more we spend the higher my expectations would be.

Ideal scenario would be a budget of $50k ($40K changeover with a $10K trade in value for current car).

For that I would want

Medium sized SUV
No more than 2yrs old
5yr manufacturer warranty so 3 yrs remaining
High spec model with latest safety features and infotainment technology
Needs to be able to tow a small caravan. Understand I would need to compromise on this so consider it mandatory for ICE and optional for EV
In the world of ICE vehicles there's plenty to pick from. The from runner at the moment is the Ford Escape ST-Line X. It has a conventional 8 speed torque converter automatic gearbox where as most competitors have CVT or DCT transmissions. I test drove one on Monday and it was really nice to drive with the Ecoboost engine and it ticks all of the boxes above.

No so much choice in the world of EVs but 5 years from now I expect there to be much more choice.

Did you take a look at the MG ZS EV? You can get it brand new with the rebate for $41k. There are also second hand Kia Niro and Hyundai Kona options to look at but they're holding their value well at the moment and any cheaper examples are snatched up pretty quick.

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#2901933 13-Apr-2022 14:08

Obraik:

Did you take a look at the MG ZS EV? You can get it brand new with the rebate for $41k. There are also second hand Kia Niro and Hyundai Kona options to look at but they're holding their value well at the moment and any cheaper examples are snatched up pretty quick.

Not interested in the MG at this point, too early in the brand's life cycle for me to trust their product. A few years from now I'm sure that will be a different story.

As for the Niro and Kona, both great EV options but I'm probably more looking at the Sportage/Tuscon size from the Korean brands.

I really would like to avoid buying another ICE vehicle at this time. I'm trying to delay it as long as I can by handing my wife my keys!

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#2901950 13-Apr-2022 14:17

The MG does have a 7 year unlimited KM warranty if that makes a difference. It has a LFP pack too, which makes degradation even less of an issue.

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#2901959 13-Apr-2022 14:39

RobDickinson:

11 hours of charging on a normal plug socket is 22kw, or about 140km+ of range

No it's not. It would be close to 22 kWH.

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