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#1782729 15-May-2017 19:09

afe66: I agree about visiting places that before were just driven through.

I had lovely half an hour sitting on the beach at hampden while my leaf charged up.

Never stopped there before with ice.

I'm contemplating a Dunedin to Chch trip in November. Asburton charger should be up by then

With a child in the car we often stop every hour anyway.

Can you get from Timaru to Rakaia? Ashburton has some slow(er) chargers at EA Networks..... This where a 32amp internal AC charger comes in really handy.

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#1782799 15-May-2017 21:18

EA Networks on plug share say they are going to be installing a rapid charger in central Ashburton, so hopefully it will be up and running by November.

Plug share also says EA Networks have two 7 kW 16A chargers..... ?should that be 32A.

Glad I got the 6.6kW option in my uk leaf

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#1782935 16-May-2017 08:52

30,000 Leafs are now on the road in Norway. Thats 1% of all the cars on the road in Norway.

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#1783168 16-May-2017 15:00

I'm in New Plymouth today.

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#1784966 19-May-2017 22:25

afe66:
EA Networks on plug share say they are going to be installing a rapid charger in central Ashburton, so hopefully it will be up and running by November.

Plug share also says EA Networks have two 7 kW 16A chargers..... ?should that be 32A.

Glad I got the 6.6kW option in my uk leaf

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7kw would normally be 32amp, yeah.

7000W/220V=31.8amp

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#1795047 5-Jun-2017 21:04

Like to hear if anyone thinks the Leafbox is worth it: http://evtun.com/leafbox.html

It appears just to be changing some settings and is not making any modifications you can't remove easily.

10% additional range for a 2016 Leaf would be nice, from about 200km to 220km. However it doesn't say anything about 2016 30Kw model specifically which already has B-mode.

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#1795128 6-Jun-2017 09:37

Cybnate:

Like to hear if anyone thinks the Leafbox is worth it: http://evtun.com/leafbox.html

It appears just to be changing some settings and is not making any modifications you can't remove easily.

10% additional range for a 2016 Leaf would be nice, from about 200km to 220km. However it doesn't say anything about 2016 30Kw model specifically which already has B-mode.

I does say it increases regen in D-Mode by 20% (and if you already have B-Mode - lucky you). So if you already have B-Mode, this would be a waste of time.

As for "N-Mode"...that's neutral. Some hypermilers use Neutral for coasting to prevent power usage......but like using neutral in a petrol car you then must rely entirely on the brakes as you have no control via the accelerator or gears (engine-breaking).

It would be a way to add B-Mode to a car that didn't have it. Provided the price was reasonable, it might be worth doing.

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#1797791 10-Jun-2017 18:28

Looks like Nissan NZ may be offering EVs in the near future.....as specific mention of electric cars has returned to the nissan.co.nz web site.

We know the 2018 LEAF is going to be available globally by the end of the year. Some people say September. It's going to have a 40kWh battery pack initially. Another incremental upgrade from the current 30kWh pack. That should boost the range from the current 170km-200km to something more like 230km-270km.

Have a look at what Nissan NZ is saying now.

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#1797806 10-Jun-2017 19:29

Nissan NZ: Nissan continue to advance technologies that will be integrated into future electric vehicles, stay tuned for future local announcements in this space.

Must be a local 'self driving' test/marketing event.

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#1798947 12-Jun-2017 20:46

Linuxluver:

We know the 2018 LEAF is going to be available globally by the end of the year.

Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

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#1799011 13-Jun-2017 00:20

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Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

I guess the question is: Are you ok with paying $60-70K for a Leaf? And are there enough other people willing to pay that?

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#1799040 13-Jun-2017 08:07

jarledb:

Cybnate:

Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

I guess the question is: Are you ok with paying $60-70K for a Leaf? And are there enough other people willing to pay that?

There are a lot of people with reservations for the Tesla Model 3 in NZ. That's one of the reasons Tesla opened an office here. It will have a similar price.

Government and corporate fleets buy vehicles in that price range, though for buying 20 or 50 of them they don't pay that price. They'd probably get a 20% discount.

In effect, the car vendor is giving government and corporates a 20% "subsidy" to buy their cars....and for EVs that is backward, eh... :-)

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#1799096 13-Jun-2017 09:13

jarledb:

Cybnate:

Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

I guess the question is: Are you ok with paying $60-70K for a Leaf? And are there enough other people willing to pay that?

I guess you must be able to have the inbuilt navigation system of an imported Leaf reprogrammed to display NZ maps? How much do you think it would cost to have that done?

And why should a NZ new Leaf cost $60 - $70K, that's a ridiculous price for what you get! And so is paying $87,000 for a NZ new BMW i3! Even second-hand pure electric old model i3's are being advertised at around $40 - $45K, and that's also ridiculous to get a range of only about 100km - 120km (if you're lucky)!

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#1799123 13-Jun-2017 09:42

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jarledb:

Cybnate:

Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

I guess the question is: Are you ok with paying $60-70K for a Leaf? And are there enough other people willing to pay that?

I guess you must be able to have the inbuilt navigation system of an imported Leaf reprogrammed to display NZ maps? How much do you think it would cost to have that done?

And why should a NZ new Leaf cost $60 - $70K, that's a ridiculous price for what you get! And so is paying $87,000 for a NZ new BMW i3! Even second-hand pure electric old model i3's are being advertised at around $40 - $45K, and that's also ridiculous to get a range of only about 100km - 120km (if you're lucky)!

The old i3 can, I think, get an upgrade to the new 33kWh battery....and the range is the best of all the current smaller EVs. The battery costs, but it would still be a lot cheaper than a new one. The number I heard for the upgrade was $10k. The range is then - even if just on battery alone - about 210km - 240km.

I know an i3 (33kWh) on the Leading the Charge drive I did covered the 137km from Napier to Taupo at 100kph regular speeds with over 20% to spare on a terrible day with a strong headwind.......and that pair of 750m hill climbs out of Napier toward Taupo is a big power sucker - petrol or electric.

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#1799128 13-Jun-2017 09:52

jarledb:

Cybnate:

Let's hope globally means including NZ. Maybe when new NZ Leaf's are being sold we can get access or licenses for NZ maps for the current generation Leafs. That is the only negative thing I found out with buying an imported car. No NZ maps leaving you with a worthless inbuilt navigation system. Fiddling with my mobile to find my way, felt like going back in time, considered using my Treo 650 mobile to do it in style.

I guess the question is: Are you ok with paying $60-70K for a Leaf? And are there enough other people willing to pay that?

We always pay a premium for pretty much everything in this country - mainly I think because we are a very small market - so the overheads (freight, parts, after sales support ) make up a higher percentage of the price than in larger markets.

But then I think sometimes you get opportunist price gouging as well - What will the market pay - rather than what can we reasonably sell someting for.

The parallel import Leafs have also benefited from generous government subsidies in their original market. So Nissan NZ cant offer that on NZ new vehicles.

I guess if you had a manufacturer selling very large amounts of an EV here then you might start seeing more attractive pricing.

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