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#3309852 17-Nov-2024 14:31

Google Maps update - for Electric Vehicles

Maps > Profile > Settings > Your Vehicle > Electric

Maps > Profile > Settings > Your Vehicle > Plugs and Adaptors

Maps > Profile > Settings > Navigation Settings > Prefer Fuel Efficient Routes

new to me in NZ anyway.

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#3309853 17-Nov-2024 14:32

dafman:

Yes, if you have a garage, or off street parking. If you don’t, ICE are superior for ease of use for people without off street parking.

And for people living in shared accommodation, EVs ownership could be more problematic than ICE (Hey Steve, can you move the Camira? I need to get the Torana out to get to the Commodore up to the charger). And if you have some EV owners flatting with non-EV owners, how do they divvy up the power bill? In both cases, it is workable, but there is additional hassle for the EV scenario over ICE.

I get that for some people, EVs are great. And all power to them. I just go back to my original point, EV owners are a subset of overall vehicle owners and recent sales volumes suggest this subset is close to being fully tapped out (for the current technology).

i think this is all a non-argument.

people will buy whatever suits them and their situation. so ice is not going to go away anytime soon and people are not going to be forced to buy ev's. there is issues and advantages to both and people will use what suits them.

the tech is evolving and now the fan boys have quit their bs nonsense, the tech will drive sales by giving customers what they want. upcoming battery tech looks to extend the range and make heavier platforms viable. the decrease in cost of home batteries will increase the benefit and usefulness of home charging (eg quick charge off the home battery). i expect to see battery storage built into charging stations in the near future to help with power network loads.

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#3309854 17-Nov-2024 14:39

I see there are new 160kw chargers in Whakatane at the Hub shopping centre - CCS only and they are set up to take payment by pay-wave. Not sure what company they belong to but they are the first ones that I have heard about that you can just drive up to and use your pay-wave card.

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#3309858 17-Nov-2024 15:08

morrisk:

I see there are new 160kw chargers in Whakatane at the Hub shopping centre - CCS only and they are set up to take payment by pay-wave. Not sure what company they belong to but they are the first ones that I have heard about that you can just drive up to and use your pay-wave card.

Plugshare says its one of these

"Plug and save"

https://plugandsave.co.nz/

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#3309861 17-Nov-2024 15:16

wellygary:

morrisk:

I see there are new 160kw chargers in Whakatane at the Hub shopping centre - CCS only and they are set up to take payment by pay-wave. Not sure what company they belong to but they are the first ones that I have heard about that you can just drive up to and use your pay-wave card.

Plugshare says its one of these

"Plug and save"

https://plugandsave.co.nz/

Thanks - good to see there a number of them around.

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#3309865 17-Nov-2024 15:21

wellygary:

https://plugandsave.co.nz/

Yet another EV charging company that can't get units correct for the product they sell. https://plugandsave.co.nz/instructions/

Just $0.75cents per kwh

Should be kWh. Yeah, it is pedantic, but this is the fundamental product they are selling. If they can't get that right, what else do they screw up?

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#3309869 17-Nov-2024 15:37

RunningMan: ...

Just $0.75cents per kwh

Should be kWh. Yeah, it is pedantic, ...

IMO, kwh is a lot better than kW. Plus, they did get it right else where on the site. Seems more like a proof reading error than a 'not knowing their stuff ...' type of an issue.

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#3309918 17-Nov-2024 15:49

I find it amazing that as apparently intelligent human beings we have to complicate the way we do things when there's a proven system already in place.

Why the need for apps to pay for one form energy to power your motor vehicle when there is a proven well accepted model already in place for other forms of energy?

We seem to have a fascination with apps.

Once upon a time you could pay your parking fees with cash/eftpos now there's a move to have to have an app to do this. I'll bet there's a different app for different cities. Thus if you're a visitor somewhere you'll need to download the app. I don't know that I could be bothered.

Just give me a simple easy way to pay that doesn't require me downloading a specific app and then no doubt creating an account and loading money onto it. Money I may not use for a long time.

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#3309919 17-Nov-2024 15:55

Technofreak:

Why the need for apps to pay for one form energy to power your motor vehicle when there is a proven well accepted model already in place for other forms of energy?

Less cost for the operator. I don't agree with it, and think that more options should be available, but that's the way it currently is. With the increased competition though things will improve.

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#3309920 17-Nov-2024 15:57

Technofreak:

Just give me a simple easy way to pay that doesn't require me downloading a specific app and then no doubt creating an account and loading money onto it. Money I may not use for a long time.

The best way would be to have a universal system like what Tesla have for their superchargers. The car communicates with the charger and the payment is automatically drawn from your credit card.

It is such a frictionless system.

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#3309921 17-Nov-2024 16:02

Technofreak:

I find it amazing that as apparently intelligent human beings we have to complicate the way we do things when there's a proven system already in place.

some people perceive things that are different, as being better. make it complicated, or you have to use xyz and its perceived to be better. which tends to be a good thing for early adopters as it reinforces their buying decision.

funny enough i have to often deal with the extreme end of that where people do things badly to be different and therefore "better than everyone else".

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#3309924 17-Nov-2024 16:38

jarledb:

The best way would be to have a universal system like what Tesla have for their superchargers. The car communicates with the charger and the payment is automatically drawn from your credit card.

It may be the easiest to use, but not always the best. You still have to set up and have an account, and can't pay with other means.

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#3309943 17-Nov-2024 19:17

gzt:

It costs significantly more to install, operate and maintain eftpos payment systems compared to keyfob or app.

And yet every single fuel retailer manages to sell their product without app or RFID token.

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#3309944 17-Nov-2024 19:23

RunningMan:

It may be the easiest to use, but not always the best. You still have to set up and have an account, and can't pay with other means.

The new V4 Supercharger stalls have paywave terminals on them now. They're not yet enabled in NZ but it should make payment easier for those that don't want to sign up in the app.

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#3309945 17-Nov-2024 19:24

richms:

gzt:

It costs significantly more to install, operate and maintain eftpos payment systems compared to keyfob or app.

And yet every single fuel retailer manages to sell their product without app or RFID token.

Volume, Volume, Volume, - The $$ turnover at these chargers will be tiny,

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