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Topic # 214131 28-Apr-2017 21:32
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Will your next car be an electric vehicle (EV)? If you have decided not to buy an EV, what are your main reasons for this?

 

I am in the process of deciding whether to buy an EV, so I would be interested in your views on this.

 

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  Reply # 1772166 28-Apr-2017 21:47
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We recently replaced our written off legacy with a Nissan Leaf. We purchased it as our second car however took us two days and it became our primary car. We charge it every 3rd or 4th day and love it's power and quiet ride. We also have a CX5 which has become our holiday car but can't wait to replace with an EV.

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  Reply # 1772168 28-Apr-2017 22:02
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My next vehicle will not be an EV. It is not that I dislike the idea of an EV, it's just that the one that interests me is out of budget at present.





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  Reply # 1772198 28-Apr-2017 23:06
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Don't have a pre-order in, but I expect my next car to be the Tesla Model 3. Have driven the Model S and the Leaf, and would be happy with either. Although I must admin the Model S is a lot sweeter than the Leaf.

 

The variables when deciding which car to choose is how to get from A to B on long drives. For most of my driving a Leaf (even first generation) would be more than enough, but I don't want to have two cars, and I want an EV that can do trips from Napier to Wellington or Auckland without too many stops and trouble.





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  Reply # 1772281 29-Apr-2017 08:53
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I bought a  shopping basket yesterday, a Toyota  Yaris for $7 grand. I would like to have gone EV but the prices are still way too high. In a couple of years when they become more mainstream I will look at it again..





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  Reply # 1772299 29-Apr-2017 09:05
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benmurphy66: We recently replaced our written off legacy with a Nissan Leaf. We purchased it as our second car however took us two days and it became our primary car. We charge it every 3rd or 4th day and love it's power and quiet ride. We also have a CX5 which has become our holiday car but can't wait to replace with an EV.

 

That's a very good outcome, what range do you get from your Nissan Leaf? The CX5 is a good vehicle to own, I wonder when Mazda will come out with an EV?




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  Reply # 1772304 29-Apr-2017 09:16
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Don't have a pre-order in, but I expect my next car to be the Tesla Model 3. Have driven the Model S and the Leaf, and would be happy with either. Although I must admin the Model S is a lot sweeter than the Leaf.

 

The variables when deciding which car to choose is how to get from A to B on long drives. For most of my driving a Leaf (even first generation) would be more than enough, but I don't want to have two cars, and I want an EV that can do trips from Napier to Wellington or Auckland without too many stops and trouble.

 

 

Yes, I think a lot depends on whether you are prepared to own two cars, an EV for local running around and a petrol engine car for trips. I also like the idea of the Tesla Model 3 with its 350 km range, but it looks like it won't be available in NZ until late next year with a price tag of around $60,000?

 

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  Reply # 1772310 29-Apr-2017 09:34
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My next vehicle will not be an EV. It is not that I dislike the idea of an EV, it's just that the one that interests me is out of budget at present.

 

 

Yes, there are plenty of "out of budget" EVs that interest me as well! One of these is the BMW i3 which currently retails new at around $85,000 plus extras. I like the idea of the little petrol motor range extender (REX) which charges the battery as you drive and gives you about 120k additional range. The battery of the new model gives you a range of close to 200k so you should get at least 300k from this car before you need to recharge the battery or top up the 9 litre fuel tank.

 

There are quite a few second-hand i3's on Trade Me but most of these are the old model which people want about $40,000 - $60,000 for, so it might pay to wait for a second-hand new model with REX to be available.

 

Incidentally, it seems that selling a second-hand i3 can sometimes take a long time and that buyers seem to prefer getting one with the least number of kilometres on the clock. I suppose there is some degradation of battery range as the car gets older and this needs to be taken into account if you are buying a second-hand EV.

 

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  Reply # 1772326 29-Apr-2017 10:32
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I am on a pensioner's budget so haven't seriously considered EVs, though I like the idea of them. If my Bonus Bonds paid off, I would certainly go for a Tesla. Apart from price, two things bother me: First, the range issue, though I realise that is rapidly improving. I would hate to run out of charge in the middle of nowhere, though. The second issue (please don't laugh) is heat. I feel the cold very keenly and like to have warm air blowing on me most of the time. Heated seats probably would not do it for me. In truly cold weather I doubt I would get much range. And no, putting on an extra cardigan doesn't help.

 

 





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  Reply # 1772339 29-Apr-2017 10:42
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Rikkitic:

I am on a pensioner's budget so haven't seriously considered EVs, though I like the idea of them. If my Bonus Bonds paid off, I would certainly go for a Tesla. Apart from price, two things bother me: First, the range issue, though I realise that is rapidly improving. I would hate to run out of charge in the middle of nowhere, though. The second issue (please don't laugh) is heat. I feel the cold very keenly and like to have warm air blowing on me most of the time. Heated seats probably would not do it for me. In truly cold weather I doubt I would get much range. And no, putting on an extra cardigan doesn't help.


 



Ev still have heaters :) in fact my leaf has a mini heat pump :)

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  Reply # 1772343 29-Apr-2017 10:45
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At university now, still don't own a car, but fully intend for my first car once I'm working to be a Leaf, eventually a Tesla Model 3. Have driven a Leaf, and ridden in Model S & X (and experienced P100D Ludicrous Mode) which fully sold me on the idea. 


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  Reply # 1772385 29-Apr-2017 11:59
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Rikkitic:

 

I am on a pensioner's budget so haven't seriously considered EVs, though I like the idea of them. If my Bonus Bonds paid off, I would certainly go for a Tesla. Apart from price, two things bother me: First, the range issue, though I realise that is rapidly improving. I would hate to run out of charge in the middle of nowhere, though. The second issue (please don't laugh) is heat. I feel the cold very keenly and like to have warm air blowing on me most of the time. Heated seats probably would not do it for me. In truly cold weather I doubt I would get much range. And no, putting on an extra cardigan doesn't help. 

 

 

As a pensioner,  the cost case for an EV is more than compelling. 

You charge from home much more cheaply than petrol. 

 

No RUC. If you have a deisel vehicle now, this is an immediate $63 / 1000km savings. If you have a petrol vehicle, you're already nnot buiying petrol with an EV. 

 

Servicing costs are minimal, at least with a Nissan LEAF. Tyres every couple of years and a new 12v battery every 2-3 years (maybe). Check the brake lines for water every couple of years.

 

Range? If you have fast chargers around you this just isn't an issue. You stop and charge and away you go. How far do you really drive in a day? How often do you REALLY make a 300km+ road trip? Are those trips to places where there still won't be fast chargers 6 months from now? 

 

Most of the reasons put up for not buying an EV don't stack up unless they need to tow boat or motorhome or drive off-road or have 4 or more kids.....and even then an EV is great for the everyday car and the big beast gets used 6 times a year for the other stuff. 

 

Talking to people on this road trip, most of them tend to come around to 100km / day is heaps.....and a $12K LEAF would be more than enough. Especially if they just need to stop for 15 minutes to charge up another 50-60km for $4 (or free, depending on where you live). 





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  Reply # 1772391 29-Apr-2017 12:11
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Different lifestyle, different needs. I believe in the principle of EV but I rarely use my car as it is. I live rural and may sometimes only go into town for shopping once in two weeks, so my carbon footprint isn't huge. Sometimes I use the car more frequently but often not. So petrol (no diesel) isn't really an issue. As a matter of principle, I don't like debt so only buy old cars I can pay cash for, which limits my choices to less than $10,000, usually way less.  

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1772393 29-Apr-2017 12:20
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Rikkitic:

 

Different lifestyle, different needs. I believe in the principle of EV but I rarely use my car as it is. I live rural and may sometimes only go into town for shopping once in two weeks, so my carbon footprint isn't huge. Sometimes I use the car more frequently but often not. So petrol (no diesel) isn't really an issue. As a matter of principle, I don't like debt so only buy old cars I can pay cash for, which limits my choices to less than $10,000, usually way less. 

 

 

Fair enough. Things will change rapidly over the next 2-3 years. 





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  Reply # 1772401 29-Apr-2017 12:38
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An EV would be perfect for my daily commute. When I'm ready to replace my Corolla I'll definitely have a look. Purchase price could be higher, but you'd have to factor in petrol savings.





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  Reply # 1772408 29-Apr-2017 12:55
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Rikkitic:

 

Different lifestyle, different needs. I believe in the principle of EV but I rarely use my car as it is. I live rural and may sometimes only go into town for shopping once in two weeks, so my carbon footprint isn't huge. Sometimes I use the car more frequently but often not. So petrol (no diesel) isn't really an issue. As a matter of principle, I don't like debt so only buy old cars I can pay cash for, which limits my choices to less than $10,000, usually way less. 

 

 

Fair enough. Things will change rapidly over the next 2-3 years. 

 

 

 

I'm keeping my eyes open (and my mind). My old bucket will die at some point. I will certainly look at EVs when it does.

 

 





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