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#1592853 15-Jul-2016 00:04

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I know little about British politics or Politicians, however, Boris as Foreign Secretary seems insane, followed by Gove being given the shove, and Nicky Morgan too. Feels a little like Boris has managed to exact his revenge and I must say I feel uneasy that the Prime Minister of Britain would be doing this to satisfy Boris.

It looks like a case of 'you broke it, you fix it!' ; ).

There are a lot of cabinet positions not named yet btw:

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/2016/07/new-cabinet/embed/embed.html

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#1592922 15-Jul-2016 09:09

She wasted no time getting rid of climate change as a key responsibility, and reaffirmed that the Home Secretary would be able to compel companies to produce encryption that is broken by design. In other words, getting on with doing exactly the things she's already known for, now that she has the top job.

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#1592969 15-Jul-2016 10:37

Geektastic:

networkn:

I know little about British politics or Politicians, however, Boris as Foreign Secretary seems insane, followed by Gove being given the shove, and Nicky Morgan too. Feels a little like Boris has managed to exact his revenge and I must say I feel uneasy that the Prime Minister of Britain would be doing this to satisfy Boris.

I very much doubt that is the reason.

Were I to be cynical I might say 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' is nearer the mark.

However, do not underestimate Boris. He's a bright chap and well liked, personable and affable. The job has been slightly diluted by having some areas of responsibility devolved to other ministries as well, so it is more a "Chief Ambassador" role by the looks of it. Boris has plenty of family connections around the world too and being related to the Royal Family never hurts.

Amusingly, his father used to work for the EU and the family lived in Brussels for a while!

The appointments of Boris Johnson as foreign secretary, Liam Fox as Minister for International Trade and David Davis as Brexit minister have made those who wanted to leave the EU now own Brexit.

Keeping Gove out was a smart move. It's interesting to see a more positive outlook starting to come back into play here, especially with growing financial and trade support towards a UK outside the UK. How they are going to deal with the Scottish Nationalist Party though, is anyones guess.

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#1592982 15-Jul-2016 10:53

And for those that have a dns blocker, you may want to head over here and watch Prime Ministers Questions for Wednesday the 13th. This was David Cameron's last session and shows the cutting wit and eloquence of the man. Certainly worth the standing ovation he got from his own party. Interesting to see the Scottish Nationalists refused to even clap.

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#1593398 15-Jul-2016 21:43

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And for those that have a dns blocker, you may want to head over here and watch Prime Ministers Questions for Wednesday the 13th. This was David Cameron's last session and shows the cutting wit and eloquence of the man. Certainly worth the standing ovation he got from his own party. Interesting to see the Scottish Nationalists refused to even clap.

They seem to regard lack of courtesy and manners as some sort of badge of honour. I wonder if we could rebuild that wall old Hadrian left us?

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#1594693 18-Jul-2016 19:16

And "Brexit" remains on everybody's minds as the UK recognises an element of "black humour" in the following viral joke -

"The generation who claimed the older generation ruined their future by voting "Brexit" are the generation currently chasing imaginary Pokermon!"

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#1594734 18-Jul-2016 21:12

In somewhat related news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36822806

"UK technology firm ARM Holdings is to be bought by Japan's Softbank for £24bn ($32bn) it confirmed on Monday"

I'm sure the exchange rate changes helped with this decision, I wonder how many other British companies will be sold off in the coming months?

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#1594742 18-Jul-2016 21:43

AHitman:

In somewhat related news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36822806

"UK technology firm ARM Holdings is to be bought by Japan's Softbank for £24bn ($32bn) it confirmed on Monday"

I'm sure the exchange rate changes helped with this decision, I wonder how many other British companies will be sold off in the coming months?

Just the other day I was discussing with someone, what the British made that the world was still buying - other than financial services. I couldn't think of a single thing that I had purchased in recent years that was British. But then I remembered I had an ARM cpu in my smartphone.

While they didn't make the chips, ARM Holdings was still British and a lot of design work is still done in the UK (and it appears that might continue).

I'm pretty sure there must have been negotiations going on for some time, but the lower GBP would have helped finalise the deal.

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#1594745 18-Jul-2016 22:09

alexx:
AHitman:

In somewhat related news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36822806

"UK technology firm ARM Holdings is to be bought by Japan's Softbank for £24bn ($32bn) it confirmed on Monday"

I'm sure the exchange rate changes helped with this decision, I wonder how many other British companies will be sold off in the coming months?

Just the other day I was discussing with someone, what the British made that the world was still buying - other than financial services. I couldn't think of a single thing that I had purchased in recent years that was British. But then I remembered I had an ARM cpu in my smartphone.

While they didn't make the chips, ARM Holdings was still British and a lot of design work is still done in the UK (and it appears that might continue).

I'm pretty sure there must have been negotiations going on for some time, but the lower GBP would have helped finalise the deal.

Off the top of my head...

Aircraft
Military equipment
Ships
Home appliances
Industrial and construction equipment
Clothing
Motor vehicles

To name but a few

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1594805 18-Jul-2016 23:48

MikeB4:

Off the top of my head...

Aircraft
Military equipment
Ships
Home appliances
Industrial and construction equipment
Clothing
Motor vehicles

To name but a few

I'm sure they still exist somewhere in small numbers, but it's been a long time since I've seen any.

Almost all the aircraft I remember flying in were either US made or Airbus ... perhaps 10 years ago I flew to Great Barrier Island in a Britten-Norman Islander, so that's one. Still a lot of Rolls Royce engines in use, so Aircraft engines might still be a significant export.

I also saw a Lotus in the car park near work last week. They aren't British owned any more, but I guess they sort of count.

I wonder if all those British products disappeared altogether from NZ tomorrow, how many people would be notice - unless they tried to catch a flight somewhere.

A far cry from 1980-83 when I owned a Ford Escort, most of my friends had British cars and if I looked around my home I'd see dozens of British products.

Getting off topic a bit now, perhaps some of those companies can pick up sales if the Pound stays low.

I suspect that this might also be a good time for someone to buy a British based Formula One team, if they were looking to buy one.

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#1594822 19-Jul-2016 07:38

alexx:
MikeB4:

Off the top of my head...

Aircraft
Military equipment
Ships
Home appliances
Industrial and construction equipment
Clothing
Motor vehicles

To name but a few

I'm sure they still exist somewhere in small numbers, but it's been a long time since I've seen any.

Almost all the aircraft I remember flying in were either US made or Airbus ... perhaps 10 years ago I flew to Great Barrier Island in a Britten-Norman Islander, so that's one. Still a lot of Rolls Royce engines in use, so Aircraft engines might still be a significant export.

I also saw a Lotus in the car park near work last week. They aren't British owned any more, but I guess they sort of count.

I wonder if all those British products disappeared altogether from NZ tomorrow, how many people would be notice - unless they tried to catch a flight somewhere.

A far cry from 1980-83 when I owned a Ford Escort, most of my friends had British cars and if I looked around my home I'd see dozens of British products.

Getting off topic a bit now, perhaps some of those companies can pick up sales if the Pound stays low.

I suspect that this might also be a good time for someone to buy a British based Formula One team, if they were looking to buy one.

Example; take a wander around Harvey Norman

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#1594829 19-Jul-2016 07:52

In the DomPost today a clip from The Times. David Davis head of the new Brexit Department saying the Scots can't have a veto because there are 17.5M people who have given the Government a mandate. Said like he believes that was the margin.

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#1594875 19-Jul-2016 09:49

alexx:

MikeB4:

Off the top of my head...

Aircraft
Military equipment
Ships
Home appliances
Industrial and construction equipment
Clothing
Motor vehicles

To name but a few

I'm sure they still exist somewhere in small numbers, but it's been a long time since I've seen any.

Almost all the aircraft I remember flying in were either US made or Airbus ... perhaps 10 years ago I flew to Great Barrier Island in a Britten-Norman Islander, so that's one. Still a lot of Rolls Royce engines in use, so Aircraft engines might still be a significant export.

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Every wing on every Airbus aircraft is made by Airbus UK at Broughton.
No UK production, no Airbus aircraft

Rolls Royce engines are exclusive on the Airbus A350 and A330NEO, and have about half the market (shared with GE) on the Boeing 787

So, not insignificant in just the aircraft sector

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#1594885 19-Jul-2016 10:01

Does the distribution of this kind of manufacturing (different Airbus components in different countries) have anything to do with EU political or trade agreements, or is it entirely because the British are the best at it?

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#1594920 19-Jul-2016 10:53

Rikkitic:

Does the distribution of this kind of manufacturing (different Airbus components in different countries) have anything to do with EU political or trade agreements, or is it entirely because the British are the best at it?

Well, you know the old joke about 'How do you know when a plan full of Poms has just landed? The whining keeps going after the engines have stopped.' Clearly, they have vast experience in turbine construction. :-D

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