I did enjoy the MOAB demonstration however. Awesome device.

DPRK this morning had a test failure of a missile, reported as exploding shortly after launch.
This presumed to be a SLBM (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile), possibly a Pukguksong-1 
Presumably - had the test been a success - this would have been KJU's "big news".

Rikkitic:

 

North Korean officials seem to be genuinely paranoid. They appear to believe, with some justification, that America wants to invade them. They are convinced that their only guarantee of survival is to possess sufficient military might to make any invasion attempt too costly to contemplate. They see nukes as the great equaliser. As long as they feel safe, they are not necessarily overly dangerous. They are still crazy, to be sure, and they will do crazy things like kidnap foreigners in their own countries and execute political prisoners with anti-aircraft guns and carry out assassinations overseas, but they probably won't march on South Korea.

 

The key to containing North Korea until the leadership hopefully implodes of its own accord, is to not upset the status quo. If they don't feel threatened, they won't threaten others, except with words. Yet along comes a US president making threats and showing force and blowing things up. How do you think that is going to affect someone who is already paranoid? You don't talk a nut job with a gun down by threatening them with a bigger gun. It doesn't matter that you have a bigger gun. Bluster and threats are not the way to get results in a situation like this. 

 

 

 

 

 

NK officials are acting under the direct orders of the establishment (=KJU).

What the establishment (KJU) believes - who knows. He was brought up in Switzerland and then "educated" in a NK University. So whether he has insight into world politics - who knows. But I'd say he has no insight into the plight of his people - whom he sees as commodity that he owns.

Geektastic:

 

I did enjoy the MOAB demonstration however. Awesome device.

 

I would be watching to see if the United States send more navy fleets or not. Right now, you get the media hyping up about bombers in Guam, and the Carl Vinson fleet. I would suspect its purely moves out of the geopolitical handbook, same with the MOAB, same with Trumps tweets. I think the Syria attack conveniently co-insides with all this DPRK stuff. The bombers in Guam have been there for ages. The Carl Vinson Fleet was there last month. Its a very different situation. I suspect a military strike is a plan B/C. It is not really a good option. South Korea knows this, Japan knows this and the USA as well. And certainly China is not keen to have a war on their doorstep.

I think right now they are getting China to squeeze them. I think they are using Trump's personality and unpredictability to the administrations advantage, it seems they got really upset about his tweets. But the policy towards DPRK has remained the same. This has not been effective in the past, but I think they can probably make it have an effect. The DPRK have effectively ran out of countries to turn to for help. Japan is very cross, South Korea is very cross, and they are starting to frustrate China.

Its up to the elite in DPRK to turn the reigeme inside out. Its too hard to speculate what its like. But some of them have defected already. If these numbers start to increase, you may see it all falling apart.

Geektastic:

 

I did enjoy the MOAB demonstration however. Awesome device.

 

When NK test missiles into ocean = bad.

When Russia test missiles hitting MH = bad.

When the US test missiles = awesome.

darylblake:

 

Geektastic:

 

I did enjoy the MOAB demonstration however. Awesome device.

 

 

I would be watching to see if the United States send more navy fleets or not. Right now, you get the media hyping up about bombers in Guam, and the Carl Vinson fleet. I would suspect its purely moves out of the geopolitical handbook, same with the MOAB, same with Trumps tweets. I think the Syria attack conveniently co-insides with all this DPRK stuff. The bombers in Guam have been there for ages. The Carl Vinson Fleet was there last month. Its a very different situation. I suspect a military strike is a plan B/C. It is not really a good option. South Korea knows this, Japan knows this and the USA as well. And certainly China is not keen to have a war on their doorstep.

 

I think right now they are getting China to squeeze them. I think they are using Trump's personality and unpredictability to the administrations advantage, it seems they got really upset about his tweets. But the policy towards DPRK has remained the same. This has not been effective in the past, but I think they can probably make it have an effect. The DPRK have effectively ran out of countries to turn to for help. Japan is very cross, South Korea is very cross, and they are starting to frustrate China.

 

Its up to the elite in DPRK to turn the reigeme inside out. Its too hard to speculate what its like. But some of them have defected already. If these numbers start to increase, you may see it all falling apart.

 

You mean "if Jared Kushner".

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

Rikkitic:

 

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

 

 

 

Bet  that some of the NK army people involved with this failed launch will be heading to the  firing squad.

Rikkitic:

North Korean officials seem to be genuinely paranoid. They appear to believe, with some justification, that America wants to invade them. They are convinced that their only guarantee of survival is to possess sufficient military might to make any invasion attempt too costly to contemplate. They see nukes as the great equaliser. As long as they feel safe, they are not necessarily overly dangerous. They are still crazy, to be sure, and they will do crazy things like kidnap foreigners in their own countries and execute political prisoners with anti-aircraft guns and carry out assassinations overseas, but they probably won't march on South Korea.

The key to containing North Korea until the leadership hopefully implodes of its own accord, is to not upset the status quo. If they don't feel threatened, they won't threaten others, except with words. Yet along comes a US president making threats and showing force and blowing things up. How do you think that is going to affect someone who is already paranoid? You don't talk a nut job with a gun down by threatening them with a bigger gun. It doesn't matter that you have a bigger gun. Bluster and threats are not the way to get results in a situation like this. 

 

 

darylblake:

Geektastic:

I did enjoy the MOAB demonstration however. Awesome device.

I would be watching to see if the United States send more navy fleets or not. Right now, you get the media hyping up about bombers in Guam, and the Carl Vinson fleet. I would suspect its purely moves out of the geopolitical handbook, same with the MOAB, same with Trumps tweets. I think the Syria attack conveniently co-insides with all this DPRK stuff. The bombers in Guam have been there for ages. The Carl Vinson Fleet was there last month. Its a very different situation. I suspect a military strike is a plan B/C. It is not really a good option. South Korea knows this, Japan knows this and the USA as well. And certainly China is not keen to have a war on their doorstep.

I think right now they are getting China to squeeze them. I think they are using Trump's personality and unpredictability to the administrations advantage, it seems they got really upset about his tweets. But the policy towards DPRK has remained the same. This has not been effective in the past, but I think they can probably make it have an effect. The DPRK have effectively ran out of countries to turn to for help. Japan is very cross, South Korea is very cross, and they are starting to frustrate China.

Its up to the elite in DPRK to turn the reigeme inside out. Its too hard to speculate what its like. But some of them have defected already. If these numbers start to increase, you may see it all falling apart.

Rikkitic:

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

 

old3eyes:

 

Rikkitic:

 

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

 

 

 

 

Bet  that some of the NK army people involved with this failed launch will be heading to the  firing squad.

 

The default execution method seems to be using anti aircraft guns.

Rikkitic:

 

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

 

 

 

Are you mocking his weight problem? Don't worry, if he eats too much just pay a plastic surgeon fly them (and his operating team) into NK and do some plastic surgery. I'm sure that's his plan, just hasn't executed it or found the right surgeon.

joker97:

 

old3eyes:

 

Rikkitic:

 

North Korea has achieved the impossible. KJU actually makes the Donald look good by comparison. I wonder if his strategy is to eat the USA under the table. At the rate he is expanding, he will either be dead or unable to waddle by the end of the year.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

 

 

 

 

Bet  that some of the NK army people involved with this failed launch will be heading to the  firing squad.

 

 

The default execution method seems to be using anti aircraft guns.

 

Expensive when a 30 cent .223 round would achieve the same outcome!

tdgeek:

gzt: Part of a policy group announcement Friday:

NZHerald (AP Wire) But a U.S. military official, who requested anonymity to discuss planning, said the U.S. doesn't intend to use military force against North Korea in response to either a nuclear test or a missile launch. The official said plans could change in the unlikely event a North Korean missile targets South Korea, Japan or U.S. territory.

The timing of the policy announcement seems designed to reduce tension.

That has always been the policy, official or unofficial. The only thing that has changed is the old rant to get oil and food is fading. more pressure goes to PRNK. I can see PRNK acting bad, but silently hoping China brokers a deal. I'd hope that the US cuts off all trade with PRNK, and advises that while it will reduce the so called acts of aggression touted by KJU, the US will shoot any missiles that leave their waters or borders, and that it has no official intention to strike pre-emptively. Cards on the table.