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#2542789 17-Aug-2020 11:52

MikeAqua:

Last night I heard a recording (on one of the 6pm news channels) of Peters saying "the rumour circulating on social media [about the index family in the current cluster] is not my rumour". The implication being that he has rumour, but that isn't it. For something to be a rumour, surely it has to be circulating somewhere. So: Which rumour is Winston's Rumour; and Where is it circulating?

You couldn't write this stuff.

And he calls them steamed hams despite the fact they are obviously grilled.

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#2542793 17-Aug-2020 11:58

Dingbatt: I have no intention of watching the interview, and to be honest, I don’t care if Hipkins uses the app or not. My only intention was to point out the fallacy of aides recording minister’s movements as an excuse for something. Damn windmills!

and a few mins earlier...

Dingbatt: No, I did.

It was to point out that Ministers don’t have aides recording what they do every minute of the day and as such it is not an excuse for Mr Hipkins to not lead by example and have the tracking app installed on his phone. Anything else inferred is tilting at windmills I’m afraid.

Ok.. so you said he wasn't leading by example by having the app installed. When I pointed out he had the app installed and he was using it you pivot back to saying it is a fallacy of his aides recording his movements. And again when I pointed out he had said he kept is own diary of his movements you disregard that.

So which is it...

Using the App - Yup confirmed he is doing that but not using the manual entry.
Using a personal diary - Confirmed he is using his own diary to track his movement but said it wasn't particularly necessary since the only places he has been is home and parliament.

But find out where he isn't leading by example again rather than what has been selectively interpreted by you?

And quoting tilting windmills when fallacies in your assumptions are called out... interesting take considering you are the one making assumptions on leading by example.

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#2542797 17-Aug-2020 12:08

So to end this pathetic to-and-froing, I was commenting on Rikkitic’s using aides to excuse the Minister’s reported behaviour and haven’t varied from that. Reread what you bolded in my comment. I apologise if you didn’t infer what I meant from your comment.

On a more relevant note, good on the PM for postponing the election by four weeks.

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#2542808 17-Aug-2020 12:26

Dingbatt:

So to end this pathetic to-and-froing, I was commenting on Rikkitic’s using aides to excuse the Minister’s reported behaviour and haven’t varied from that. Reread what you bolded in my comment. I apologise if you didn’t infer what I meant from your comment.

On a more relevant note, good on the PM for postponing the election by four weeks.

I wasn't using them as an excuse. I was using them as a possible alternative explanation to the Minister being a hypocritical uncaring indifferent incompetent politician who can't be bothered.

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#2542823 17-Aug-2020 12:37

Dingbatt:

So to end this pathetic to-and-froing, I was commenting on Rikkitic’s using aides to excuse the Minister’s reported behaviour and haven’t varied from that. Reread what you bolded in my comment. I apologise if you didn’t infer what I meant from your comment.

On a more relevant note, good on the PM for postponing the election by four weeks.

And this was why I was pointing you to the *actual* interview rather than selective reporting of the interview to get the accurate information.

The statements you have made in regards to the minister not using the app, or solely relying on his aides to record his movements are both factually incorrect. It is as simple as that.

I know you don't like being wrong and justify it as "pathetic to-and-froing" but if you are saying that the minister of health isn't leading by example and not doing something when he had said he is doesn't that sound a bit like tilting windmills??

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#2542825 17-Aug-2020 12:38

BarTender:

Using the App - Yup confirmed he is doing that but not using the manual entry

I must have misheard this bit - apologies for the massive derailment 😅

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#2542827 17-Aug-2020 12:44

Rikkitic:

I wasn't using them as an excuse. I was using them as a possible alternative explanation to the Minister being a hypocritical uncaring indifferent incompetent politician who can't be bothered.

This made me chuckle. Next time someone accuses me of making excuses, I will simply say I’m “Using an alternative explanation”.

Please accept this as a light hearted comment and not a criticism.

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#2542832 17-Aug-2020 12:58

GV27: I must have misheard this bit - apologies for the massive derailment 😅

Is it a derailment massive or not to get the facts straight?

I'm happy to admit when I am wrong but when I actually watched the interview in an entirety I was struggling with how you and @dingbatt came to the conclusions you did.

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#2542838 17-Aug-2020 13:12

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GV27: I must have misheard this bit - apologies for the massive derailment 😅

Is it a derailment massive or not to get the facts straight?

Uh... I'm not saying you were wrong to correct me, just that I've sent the thread down an almighty detour by mishearing something and was apologising for that.

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#2543228 17-Aug-2020 20:58

Judith Collins is getting on my nerves a bit see is already calling her shelf prime minster
“I expect I will be very happy being prime minister” according to Newshub eight times before see would accept the election results “it’s a very hypothetical question but a course I’d expect to why wouldn’t i with the caveat it’s conducted under the Iaw

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#2543287 17-Aug-2020 23:21

If the polls are right, she hasn't got a hope. Like I said, most of the National voters I know (a fair few of them) find her far too polarising, and she has a lot of baggage to go with it. But you can't blame her for trying.

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#2543298 18-Aug-2020 06:47

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122473901/coronavirus-ashley-bloomfield-blames-miscommunication-for-quarantine-testing-confusion

The director-general of health says a miscommunication is to blame for the prime minister claiming quarantine facility workers were being tested for Covid-19 weekly, when routine testing was yet to be rolled out.

Ashley Bloomfield, reluctant to criticise either his political masters or health officials, on Monday said there was a “dissonance” between Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s expectation and what was actually happening on the ground.

Hard. Early.

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#2543302 18-Aug-2020 06:55

GV27:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122473901/coronavirus-ashley-bloomfield-blames-miscommunication-for-quarantine-testing-confusion

The director-general of health says a miscommunication is to blame for the prime minister claiming quarantine facility workers were being tested for Covid-19 weekly, when routine testing was yet to be rolled out.

Ashley Bloomfield, reluctant to criticise either his political masters or health officials, on Monday said there was a “dissonance” between Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s expectation and what was actually happening on the ground.

Hard. Early.

Looks like Ashley is getting familiar with the underside of the bus again. Importantly though, the PM was never wrong. There was a 'dissonance'.

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#2543303 18-Aug-2020 07:00

MikeAqua:
GV27:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122473901/coronavirus-ashley-bloomfield-blames-miscommunication-for-quarantine-testing-confusion

The director-general of health says a miscommunication is to blame for the prime minister claiming quarantine facility workers were being tested for Covid-19 weekly, when routine testing was yet to be rolled out.

Ashley Bloomfield, reluctant to criticise either his political masters or health officials, on Monday said there was a “dissonance” between Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s expectation and what was actually happening on the ground.

Hard. Early.

Looks like Ashley is getting familiar with the underside of the bus again. Importantly though, the PM is never wrong. There was a 'dissonance'.

More like Ashley's fairly incompetent ministry was telling lies (again).

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#2543304 18-Aug-2020 07:06

Handle9:

More like Ashley's fairly incompetent ministry was telling lies (again).

I reject the premise of that question.

(It depends if someone just assumed it was already happening or was told it was already happening).

Bloomfield has put his hand up and taken responsibility before; you could infer which is more likely based on the fact he hasn't done that.

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