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Topic # 85893 27-Jun-2011 23:36
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As in title, am interested to know what owners think of the flagship Plasma from Samsung. Chime in if you have any thoughts!

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  Reply # 486665 27-Jun-2011 23:43
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As per reply to your other post, Unfortunatly Samsung have failed us this season. Looks cool but no motion processor means judders like a entry level PS43D450 :(. The C7000's from last season have the processor and is a much better performing TV but hard to find now.

Its sad really,



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  Reply # 486691 28-Jun-2011 07:41
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Have been doing a bit of reading on this set and you're the first to comment on this being an issue, everyone else has been raving about it. Given it's a Plasma I was under the impression judder wasn't really a problem? I'd go for a VT30 if it had a swivel base, but without one it's useless to me sadly.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 486782 28-Jun-2011 11:13
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I've never seen an issue with the motion processor - where did you get your info Bolly?
For me, the biggest issue is the sound / reflective panel. But if you're in a light controlled room with a home theatre system (and you like the look of the silver stand / surround) then go for it.

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  Reply # 486785 28-Jun-2011 11:19
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Two things about the 59" version (I realise it's not the same)

One, the Anti-Reflective coating peels off the screen after a while (starts with bubbles in the corners)

Two, they can be prone to excessive plasma hum.

However despite this, I think the PS59D8000 is one of the best TVs visually I have seen in a long time.

Once again not sure how this relates to the 51"

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  Reply # 486917 28-Jun-2011 14:57
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Undefeatable film grain smoothing and the cinema smooth (96Hz) luminance bug are back from last year. This year's models apparently also suffer from floating blacks the same as last years Panasonics did.

The Panasonics of course have their own set of problems and I'm not convinced the VT30 will be worth the price increase over a GT30 at this point.

Pick your poison carefully.

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  Reply # 486975 28-Jun-2011 16:08
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Evilg: Two things about the 59" version (I realise it's not the same)

One, the Anti-Reflective coating peels off the screen after a while (starts with bubbles in the corners)

Two, they can be prone to excessive plasma hum.

However despite this, I think the PS59D8000 is one of the best TVs visually I have seen in a long time.

Once again not sure how this relates to the 51"


I think  the PS59D8000 is brilliant. It is very slim for a panel, slimmer than my LA40B650, looks awesome, and the picture quality can not be faulted. These Samsung TV's have also evolved into a fully capable media centre also, with the menus becoming very user friendly.

I hope the antiglare coating does not come off, have you had any first hand experience with this? How did you rectify it?

I have not noticed the plasma hum, although I do not watch it on mute.

I highly recommend this tv, especially when Harvey Norman can do it for $3900, if not less by now. 



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  Reply # 487219 29-Jun-2011 00:55
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Grabbed the 51" version today and am incredibly happy with it. Haven't calibrated (much) but out of the box it is stunning. It makes my old LA40F81 look tired, small & chunky. Surprised they're the same weight!

Haven't noticed a hum at all, or any issues with blacks/greys. really happy with it and based on first impressions would recommend it.

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  Reply # 487247 29-Jun-2011 08:48
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jjnz1:
Evilg: Two things about the 59" version (I realise it's not the same)

One, the Anti-Reflective coating peels off the screen after a while (starts with bubbles in the corners)

Two, they can be prone to excessive plasma hum.

However despite this, I think the PS59D8000 is one of the best TVs visually I have seen in a long time.

Once again not sure how this relates to the 51"


I think  the PS59D8000 is brilliant. It is very slim for a panel, slimmer than my LA40B650, looks awesome, and the picture quality can not be faulted. These Samsung TV's have also evolved into a fully capable media centre also, with the menus becoming very user friendly.

I hope the antiglare coating does not come off, have you had any first hand experience with this? How did you rectify it?

I have not noticed the plasma hum, although I do not watch it on mute.

I highly recommend this tv, especially when Harvey Norman can do it for $3900, if not less by now. 


If the anti-reflective coating comes off it goes back to Samsung, unfortunately that is the only fix. Yes I have first hand experience with this sadly.

It's a crapshoot whether you get a "hummer" or not... so maybe you are one of the lucky ones!

But I agree.... the TV is brilliant otherwise 

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  Reply # 487504 29-Jun-2011 17:08
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Dunnersfella: I've never seen an issue with the motion processor - where did you get your info Bolly?
For me, the biggest issue is the sound / reflective panel. But if you're in a light controlled room with a home theatre system (and you like the look of the silver stand / surround) then go for it.



I got the info from standing in a shop and looking at the UA55D8000 with the PS51D8000 and the TH-P50VT30 all next to each other while playing the start of Poseidon on Blu-Ray (if you can get a copy its a real TV killer!) As the scene pans around the ship you will see the vertical lines judder as they go past, stands out like dogs balls even to an old bloke standing behind me he was quite taken aback!

Anyway the Samsung LED and the Panasonic were very good pretty much the best around (In NZ anyway).
But to my disapointment the Samsung plasma (PS51D8000) was juddering like a mofo! So I requested the remote from the sales guy to see what was up! To my horror I find the motion options are not in menu at all! 

But wait theres more! They had a PS50C7000 (last one left) and that has the processor! Looked great!

Conclusion:
Samsung UA55D8000 Great motion nice and smooth but let down buy colours and blacks in a big way! It is LCD/LED after all.

Samsung PS51D8000 Fantastic looking TV as long as it stays off! Wast of money (unless they have an update to fix then it would be awesome as coulors and blacks are fantastic!)

Panasonic TH-P50VT30 The best hands down, But very pricey. Other options would be the GT's or even ST's all these models have great processors. Plain looking but great pictures.


I would like to here other opinons after having viewed the opening to Poseidon on blu-ray for themselves while comparing TV's (note must play on more than one TV at time to compare otherwise you maynot know what your looking for)

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  Reply # 487590 29-Jun-2011 22:40
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The funny thing is...
I was watching the UA55D8000 today - and the image processing was shocking. Wimbledon was just foul. The judder was a major issue, and this wasn't panning shots, it was a fixed camera position with players moving around the court.
After cranking up the anti-judder etc, it lessened the issue considerably, but it certainly didn't remove it. However, the image then looked, well... unnatural.
So I'd be interested to see the PS51D8000 on 50Hz material... to see what one is worse.



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Reply # 488191 1-Jul-2011 10:43
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Have watched a few movies on it now (Kill the Irishman, Sucker Punch, 1 minute of Monsters vs Aliens to test 3D) and although I've been straining to find some judder issues I just can't? Everything looks stunning.

I'll get hold of Poseidon and see if I can spot what you're talking about.

One thing I do notice is the Plasma flicker, but is only really apparent on static images/menus etc.

 

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  Reply # 488200 1-Jul-2011 11:24
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If you own the TV, stop looking and be happy.
If you notice something, it will really piss you off.



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  Reply # 488298 1-Jul-2011 15:39
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Got a 14 day right of return, trying to test it as much as possible before then :)

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  Reply # 489716 5-Jul-2011 16:34
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trig42: If you own the TV, stop looking and be happy.
If you notice something, it will really piss you off.


Thats true,

Plus you will notice it when there is a better TV sitting next to it, I can guarantee its been juddering all over the place with any of those movies you have watched, But the fact you have nothing to compare it to you won't know what your looking for so will think its normal.

In saying that thought its a premium TV at a premium price so you want to get what you paid for.



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  Reply # 489935 6-Jul-2011 09:55
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I stopped looking. Then I saw it. Urrgh. Now I can't help but see it everywhere. This set is unbelievable for movies. Stunning. Flawless. Great. For Xbox however the judder issue is absolutely horrid. Sorting out a replacement this week hopefully.

http://www.youtube.com/user/therealnzskater#p/a/u/0/i6T3Wx5l7zU 

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