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  #2673937 13-Mar-2021 18:39
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Are those tests done over Wi-Fi?



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  #2673949 13-Mar-2021 19:24
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Linux: Are those tests done over Wi-Fi?

 

Those are all cabled tests that I posted with an onboard 10gbit nic going via a 10gbit switch. (with the nz speedtest hitting 4100down I'm unsure as to whether there is generally available Wifi to hit those speeds)


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  #2673951 13-Mar-2021 19:44
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kyonz:

Some of the above doesn't align with my experiences so thought I'd post some speed tests. This is from Wellington if at all useful.


None of this is in a sterile environment so expect background radiation 😂.


Bit of commentary, Aus seems decent but results further get weird - e.g. that portland result being 170 down and 1186 up (and seems totally dependent on what provider you hit)



 


 



Bit strange your Sydney Optus speeds are the reverse of mine i.e I get 3500-4000 down and 500-1000 up, also with Orcon. My ping is 24 but probably because I'm in Auckland Central.



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  #2730487 18-Jun-2021 09:02
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So I have just received some very disappointing news regarding the anticipated ONT/RGW firmware updates. It appears the anticipated updates to allow a decent level of RGW control by the end user are now not happening for the foreseeable future. This means the extremely limited control that exists now is the way its going to stay. The end user pretty much can only -

 

 

 

1. enable/control wifi

 

2. change basic security controls like simple ip blocking or parental control

 

3. ipv4 port forwards

 

 

 

 

 

The ISP via the RMS configuration tool can additionally -

 

 

 

1. Configure SIP settings

 

2. change basic ipv4 LAN setting like ip/basic dhcp (I still find it so odd that an end user cant even set their router IP address or dhcp)

 

3. change basic wan settings like ppp/dhcp

 

4. set speed/duplex on physical ports

 

5. factory default/reset

 

 

 

Missing are things like IPv6 control (cant modify IPv6 settings in any way!), snmp and the multitude of other things users normally have access to. So, if you were waiting for any power user settings its time to give up and accept you need to switch to bridge mode with your own router to get any of that functionality. This is pretty disappointing news for what is supposed to be a power users product.

 

 

 

 


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  #2730511 18-Jun-2021 09:22
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So I have just received some very disappointing news regarding the anticipated ONT/RGW firmware updates. It appears the anticipated updates to allow a decent level of RGW control by the end user are now not happening for the foreseeable future. This means the extremely limited control that exists now is the way its going to stay. The end user pretty much can only -

 

That is disappointing. I would have thought that the target market for hyperfibre would be the ones wanting full control over their local network. I'm still waiting for my ISP to support Hyperfibre (Voyager), but even then I wouldn't consider it without full control over my LAN configuration.


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  #2730513 18-Jun-2021 09:24
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That is disappointing. I would have thought that the target market for hyperfibre would be the ones wanting full control over their local network. I'm still waiting for my ISP to support Hyperfibre (Voyager), but even then I wouldn't consider it without full control over my LAN configuration.

 

 

There isn't even the ability to see DHCP leases by ether the end user or the ISP RMS portal, so odd.

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2730524 18-Jun-2021 09:41
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...I wouldn't consider it without full control over my LAN configuration.

 

 

It's fairly trivial to bridge a proper router for that purpose. That said, Chorus seem to have an inconsistent perspective on who it is they see as the client base for hyperfibre. I understand they're not directly marketing it, but we're getting close to a year post-rollout and the fact that there are still so few ISPs offering HF seems to support this.

 

I signed up because it was offered early-access in my neighborhood right when I was pulling the trigger to go 10Gb in my little home lab. It's really nice to see stuff download at 130 or 150MBs but I'm leaning toward flipping back to the basic 900/500 fibre when my contract ends. I wish someone would do 1Gbps symmetrical...


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  #2730527 18-Jun-2021 09:46
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I wish someone would do 1Gbps symmetrical...

 

 

1Gbps symmetrical would require the XGS-PON ONT rather than the GPON ONT but I absolutely agree that it would be a really useful product in today's "cloud" world. It would give full upload capability without the user having to jump into multigig network upgrades.

 

 


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  #2730547 18-Jun-2021 10:40
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Hyperfibre is still more or less a tech demo currently. It is great to have, but practically nobody actually needs it. It is however making NBN in Australia look sad.

 

Digmarx:

 

I signed up because it was offered early-access in my neighborhood right when I was pulling the trigger to go 10Gb in my little home lab. It's really nice to see stuff download at 130 or 150MBs but I'm leaning toward flipping back to the basic 900/500 fibre when my contract ends. I wish someone would do 1Gbps symmetrical...

 

I've actually heard this from a number of people currently on Hyperfibre. Standard Gigabit UFB is plenty for most households and still impressive in its own right and quite a bit cheaper.

 

Also something to note and many people I know have experienced is switching from "Team Purple" to any competent ISP will actually see a real world performance jump. It has been explained on here before by an ex-employee of theirs but basically they cheap out on their network (which is why there is one PoP in Auckland) which is why performance drops really quickly as soon as your traffic leaves NZ.

 

Hyperfibre is available where I am but I am waiting until 10Gbit networking gear, especially fanless Mikrotik routers are available before making the jump.





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  #2730612 18-Jun-2021 12:46
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Hyperfibre is available where I am but I am waiting until 10Gbit networking gear, especially fanless Mikrotik routers are available before making the jump.

 

 

 

 

I'm going to swap to using my RB4011iGS+RM (router "on a stick") with the connection to the ONT going via my 10G switch. Should have enough grunt to do the 4Gig but even if its a bit under it will be better than the current ONT/RGW restrictions.  I suspect the CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS might be a good future choice after swapping the fans for quiet Noctua fans like I did on the CRS312-4C+8XG-RM.


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  #2730630 18-Jun-2021 13:28
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noroad:

 

michaelmurfy:

 

Hyperfibre is available where I am but I am waiting until 10Gbit networking gear, especially fanless Mikrotik routers are available before making the jump.

 

 

 

 

I'm going to swap to using my RB4011iGS+RM (router "on a stick") with the connection to the ONT going via my 10G switch. Should have enough grunt to do the 4Gig but even if its a bit under it will be better than the current ONT/RGW restrictions.  I suspect the CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS might be a good future choice after swapping the fans for quiet Noctua fans like I did on the CRS312-4C+8XG-RM.

 

 

i take it your looking at running IPoE for that though?





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  #2730640 18-Jun-2021 13:53
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i take it your looking at running IPoE for that though?

 

 

PPPoe on the Wan side. Yes, it does work.

 

 

 

 


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  #2730646 18-Jun-2021 14:02
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hio77:

 

 

 

i take it your looking at running IPoE for that though?

 

 

PPPoe on the Wan side. Yes, it does work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting, didn't think a 4011 would quite cut the mustard for that given the single threaded PPPoE termination in ROS6





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  #2730672 18-Jun-2021 14:31
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Interesting, didn't think a 4011 would quite cut the mustard for that given the single threaded PPPoE termination in ROS6

 

 

 

 

Dunno, guess I'll find out next week. Will report back the results.

 

 


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  #2732431 22-Jun-2021 07:01
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noroad:

 

 

 

Dunno, guess I'll find out next week. Will report back the results.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The RB4011 (pppoe) with the ONT connection going back via a switch seems to perform quite adequately, it hits about 30-40% CPU during speed tests and 1-2% otherwise.

 

https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/828383c4-e84b-4842-ac86-b48f38f43044

 

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/e1c33e59-f445-4051-9937-706f3b788881

 

 

 

 


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