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#195508 22-Apr-2016 09:39
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Windows phone sales are down 73% from the same period last year. I can't see how this is sustainable or why Microsoft would continue to invest in a platform with no hope of a return.

It's pretty clear that Windows phone isn't going to ever achieve a meaningful market share so it's pretty obvious why no one wants to invest in making apps for the platform.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11477446/microsoft-earnings-report-q3-2016

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  #1537946 22-Apr-2016 10:11
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What came first chicken or eggs?

 

If there are no sales, then there will be no app.

 

If there are no apps, then there will be no sales.

 

Microsoft only hope with Windows 10 Mobile is Universal Apps platform.





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  #1537952 22-Apr-2016 10:17
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Now that Xamarin is free we have a better cross-platform solution for the user interface.


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  #1537969 22-Apr-2016 10:43
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Check Windows Central, there has been stream, small but a stream of new Apps over the last month or two



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  #1537992 22-Apr-2016 11:02
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Hammerer:

 

Now that Xamarin is free we have a better cross-platform solution for the user interface.

 

 

Yeah, I'm interested to see if this will improve things


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  #1537995 22-Apr-2016 11:10
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I expect Windows Phone to limp along for another 12 months or so - Microsoft have stated it isn't a focus right now.

 

If/when they make it a focus something interesting might happen.

 

 


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  #1537998 22-Apr-2016 11:13
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wasabi2k:

I expect Windows Phone to limp along for another 12 months or so - Microsoft have stated it isn't a focus right now.


If/when they make it a focus something interesting might happen.


 



The MS focus is Windows 10 which is encompassing Win Mobile so they are in fact focussing on it

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  #1538037 22-Apr-2016 12:21
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Microsoft has tried focussing on Windows phone and failed. No one views Blackberry as a serious platform anymore , I can't see any real reason why Windows Phone would be viewed any differently.

IMO it's a platform which only exists as no one has had the guts to kill it.



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  #1538041 22-Apr-2016 12:28
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With Windows mobile we need to stop thinking modular but as Windows as a service encompassing multiple devices. Windows 10 is simply that Windows 10, be it on a cellphone, tablet, desktop, xbox or notebook. This is where MS are heading with this. They are not abandoning mobile they are simply thinking global with their eco-system. I believe this ultimately will see the mobile being secure.

 

 


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  #1538127 22-Apr-2016 14:01
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MikeB4:

 

With Windows mobile we need to stop thinking modular but as Windows as a service encompassing multiple devices. Windows 10 is simply that Windows 10, be it on a cellphone, tablet, desktop, xbox or notebook. This is where MS are heading with this. They are not abandoning mobile they are simply thinking global with their eco-system. I believe this ultimately will see the mobile being secure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agree 1005 with Mike here. And exactly the reason I am waiting for the HP Elite X3, so I can jump back from Android to Windows. Hurry up HP!!!


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MikeB4:
wasabi2k:

 

I expect Windows Phone to limp along for another 12 months or so - Microsoft have stated it isn't a focus right now.

 

 

 

If/when they make it a focus something interesting might happen.

 

 

 

 

 



The MS focus is Windows 10 which is encompassing Win Mobile so they are in fact focussing on it

 

 

 

Sort of - http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

 

 

 

 

"We're fully committed to that 4-inch screen, there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year," explains Myerson. "There's no lack of recognition to realize how important that form factor is, but for Microsoft with Windows and for our platform it's the wrong place for us to lead."

 


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  #1538134 22-Apr-2016 14:11
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@nathan It would be interesting to get your take on this

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  #1538143 22-Apr-2016 14:25
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As someone who supports Windows phone, and bought a few for family members, I get the feeling MS has given up on the current generation of Windows Phone, as typified by the sole mid range lumia 650  - poor specs, high price.   The whole universal apps thing hasn't really caught on yet, and even then apps will need specific coding and testing for different screen sizes.  If there aren't the phones, that's a cost with no return.

 

 

 

Seems like maybe a reboot with Surface Phone as last chance saloon, If Universal apps and Xamarin etc are more widespread.  If Xamarin can be widely adopted for Android and iOS app development, hopefully that means much less of a barrier to doing a Windows app too.


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  #1538206 22-Apr-2016 15:50
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Acer are bringing a Win 10 phone very soon the Liquid Jade Primo and there is expected to be releases from other OEM's on the horizon. The offerings from MS are good especially the 950 and 950XL, Spark are currently offering the 950 at $1099 and with that you get a Keyboard, Mouse and Screenbeam Mini 2.

 

I am seriously considering returning to the Windows Mobile party.


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  #1538208 22-Apr-2016 16:01
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It'd be really sad to see Windows 10 Mobile killed, I enjoy my device and love the integration with other Windows 10 devices. I'm not sure I buy the lack of apps issue any more though. I am pretty well sorted apps-wise and don't want for anything. I can see some people wanting a few specific apps and definitely think the banks here need to step up and all release apps for all platforms.


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  #1538209 22-Apr-2016 16:03
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UHD:

It'd be really sad to see Windows 10 Mobile killed, I enjoy my device and love the integration with other Windows 10 devices. I'm not sure I buy the lack of apps issue any more though. I am pretty well sorted apps-wise and don't want for anything. I can see some people wanting a few specific apps and definitely think the banks here need to step up and all release apps for all platforms.



My point with apps is why would the banks bother to invest in developing them? The user base is so small that it doesn't make any sense to bother.

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