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#171485 20-Apr-2015 13:32
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The missus and I have put an offer on a house, which has been accepted, and should we manage to sell our current place in time, we'll be moving. I've spent some time over the last few days thinking about how we'll use the rooms in the new house should it all go through...

There is a nice, quiet room that will make a great study. The desk, bookcase and lockable filing cabinet in my current study will fit nicely, and there's a phone socket for an internet connection. The problem is that it's right in one back corner of the house, as far away from the main living areas as it's possible to be, so probably not the best place to put the wireless router.

For the last couple of months I have been using the Spark-supplied Huawei HG630b VDSL wifi router/modem which has been pretty good so far. I plan to plug this into another socket closer to the living rooms and bedrooms for most of the devices in the house to use. I also still have the old Thomson/Technicolor TG789vn that the Huawei replaced, which was having a lot of wifi dropouts but seemed to work OK when the desktop PC was ethernet-cabled into the back of it. So, two questions:

1. Would there be any problem, technically or from a Spark account point of view, with having both units plugged into different phone sockets at the same time - the Huawei for wifi and the Thomson for "cabled" access for one desktop only (I assume it would be best to "disable" the wireless function of the Thomson)?
2. The house doesn't currently have a master splitter installed. I'd get this done, but how would this work - or would it work at all - if I was intending using two sockets at the same time?

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  #1287728 20-Apr-2015 13:36
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You can only have one modem on a line at a time - for technical reasons not Spark.

Best solution is to run an Ethernet cables if possible as this is far more reliable than wifi.



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  #1287732 20-Apr-2015 13:37
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Have a look at Powerline - it provides wired ethernet through the power cables.




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  #1287735 20-Apr-2015 13:39
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Put an access point in the ceiling cavity, connected to the main router with ethernet. Make it cheap so it if fails from high temp you just replace it. I have a Fritzbox in a high cupboard inside the house, coverage is good 2.4 and 5GHz.

Alternately use power line networking, that way you can put the WAP anywhere.



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  #1287737 20-Apr-2015 13:47
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RunningMan: You can only have one modem on a line at a time - for technical reasons not Spark.

Best solution is to run an Ethernet cables if possible as this is far more reliable than wifi.

It might be possible to run an ethernet cable from the ideal Huawei wifi location, under the floor, and come up in the study. It would probably end up being about 10 or 12 metres - would that length be OK?

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  #1287743 20-Apr-2015 13:52
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Zeon: Have a look at Powerline - it provides wired ethernet through the power cables.

Hmm, just googled that - looks handy. And might be easier, given that from my look a couple of weekends ago, crawl space under the back of the house is extremely low in places...

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  #1287745 20-Apr-2015 13:53
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andrew027:
RunningMan: You can only have one modem on a line at a time - for technical reasons not Spark.

Best solution is to run an Ethernet cables if possible as this is far more reliable than wifi.

It might be possible to run an ethernet cable from the ideal Huawei wifi location, under the floor, and come up in the study. It would probably end up being about 10 or 12 metres - would that length be OK?


Yep. Ethernet is good for 100m.

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  #1287811 20-Apr-2015 15:34
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Get the powerlines! I've been using Netcomms NP507 for a couple of years now. I stream HD movies through this to my TV and the connection is fast and stable.

 
 
 
 

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  #1287822 20-Apr-2015 15:57
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Thanks for the advice everyone. Obviously there are a number of hurdles to jump over before I can even get into the new house, but fingers crossed I'll be able to try one or more of these ideas in a couple of months time!

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  #1287826 20-Apr-2015 16:07
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I have 4 PowerLine EoP devices in excess to me now; make me an offer when you want it :-D

I'm based in Christchurch.




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  #1287853 20-Apr-2015 16:37
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RunningMan: You can only have one modem on a line at a time - for technical reasons not Spark.

Best solution is to run an Ethernet cables if possible as this is far more reliable than wifi.


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First (best) option - ethernet
Second option - ethernet over power
Third (worst) option - WiFi




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  #1287864 20-Apr-2015 16:59
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RunningMan: You can only have one modem on a line at a time - for technical reasons not Spark.

Best solution is to run an Ethernet cables if possible as this is far more reliable than wifi.


+1

First (best) option - ethernet
Second option - ethernet over power
Third (worst) option - WiFi


I have been using EoP solution for a year or so but over the weekend we finally wired up the ethernet for stable data transmission. EoP has its benefits and it works well but it's susceptive to how long the wiring is between two points.




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  #1287870 20-Apr-2015 17:04
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Something I've been wondering for a while: If you use a powerline adapter, what stops your neighbour from plugging in another one and accessing your network?

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  #1287872 20-Apr-2015 17:05
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Behodar: Something I've been wondering for a while: If you use a powerline adapter, what stops your neighbour from plugging in another one and accessing your network?

Different mains power circuit ?




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  #1287889 20-Apr-2015 17:30
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Sideface:
Behodar: Something I've been wondering for a while: If you use a powerline adapter, what stops your neighbour from plugging in another one and accessing your network?

Different mains power circuit ?


In some cases only the encryption on the devices. My anecdotal experience from two neighbouring houses owned by my parents is that they will work between two houses over short distances. They are separate houses, but are in a unit title arrangement so might have the physical lines integrated more than other separate builds might. Still have separate power meters etc.




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  #1287893 20-Apr-2015 17:32
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Interesting. Granted I don't know much about power wiring; I just know that each house doesn't have its own independent pair like with phone wiring so I wondered what stops the signal from getting back out to the lines in the street. It seems that the answer is "not much"! :)

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