Shelly Wifi smart home devices now with AU/NZ Certification

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#2686483 5-Apr-2021 07:46

Psilan:

I can see the need for an electrician installing these devices in some cases , but it seems according to worksafe and the act you can install these as a homeowner.

The key words here are remove, replace, relocate and disconnect. Installing a smart switch is adding to the circuit.

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#2686488 5-Apr-2021 08:23

SirHumphreyAppleby:
Psilan:

I can see the need for an electrician installing these devices in some cases , but it seems according to worksafe and the act you can install these as a homeowner.

The key words here are remove, replace, relocate and disconnect. Installing a smart switch is adding to the circuit.

Does that mean if you already had a smart relay installed and it failed, you could replace it yourself?

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#2686641 5-Apr-2021 14:20

Connect and disconnect fixed wired appliances.

Wonder if that's got any specific definition's in the code, Shellys and whatnot could be considered a fixed appliance

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#2686731 5-Apr-2021 16:47

jol: Does that mean if you already had a smart relay installed and it failed, you could replace it yourself?

That would be my understanding. Your allowed to replace stuff, like for like, or move outlets. But you can't add anything new.

Beccara:

Connect and disconnect fixed wired appliances.

Wonder if that's got any specific definition's in the code, Shellys and whatnot could be considered a fixed appliance

You would have to check but I think an appliance will have a specific definition. Its designed for wall mounted heaters and the like so that they can be replaced.

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#2687880 7-Apr-2021 14:05

I spoke to worksafe who classified these devices as a switch with me;

Remove and replace any of the following kinds of fittings, where the work does not involve work on any switchboard:

- switches

Hard to know who to believe.

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#2687881 7-Apr-2021 14:07

Psilan:

I spoke to worksafe who classified these devices as a switch with me;

Remove and replace any of the following kinds of fittings, where the work does not involve work on any switchboard:

switches
Hard to know who to believe.

I'd clarify the "Remove and replace". Are you going to remove an existing switch and replace it with a Shelly?

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#2687887 7-Apr-2021 14:31

Appliances were last time I looked defined as something that did work or heat as the purpose. That was some time ago and those lists were made long before any idea of control equipment existed.

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#2693249 15-Apr-2021 13:26

have a read of Section 79 of the Act - Exemption for domestic electrical wiring work and Section 80 - Exemption for maintenance of domestic appliance

The Act also gives an interpretation of what an electrical appliance is

At the end of the day its always safer to have an electrician to carry out the work. not only for insurance purposes but they are to identify any other issues that maybe present

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#2693257 15-Apr-2021 13:41

Sparkznz:
have a read of Section 79 of the Act - Exemption for domestic electrical wiring work and Section 80 - Exemption for maintenance of domestic appliance

The Act also gives an interpretation of what an electrical appliance is

At the end of the day its always safer to have an electrician to carry out the work. not only for insurance purposes but they are to identify any other issues that maybe present

Section 79.1.e and 79.1.f state that if you do it yourself it must be tested by someone certified to test and certify electrical work.

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#2693277 15-Apr-2021 14:29

Correct

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#2699331 28-Apr-2021 21:02

Has anyone had experiences with the Shelly 2.5? Does it work well?

Is it NZ certificated and can anyone point me to the certification?

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#2699332 28-Apr-2021 21:04

I have 2.5. It’s just like having 2 1s in the wall I guess?
Yes it was certed.

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#2699333 28-Apr-2021 21:13

Looks like they have the certification right on the Shelly website now https://shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/devices/shelly-25/

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#2699337 28-Apr-2021 21:21

mattenz: Looks like they have the certification right on the Shelly website now https://shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/devices/shelly-25/

Thank you I somehow missed that!

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#2699407 29-Apr-2021 06:52

Psilan:
I spoke to worksafe who classified these devices as a switch with me;

Remove and replace any of the following kinds of fittings, where the work does not involve work on any switchboard:

switches

Hard to know who to believe.

Your insurance will not care what Worksafe say.

If there is a fire they will work backwards to check why. If it's legal you'd still need to demonstrate that you are a competent person to carry out the work. That includes all the tests that a sparky would have to do.

If your workmanship causes the fault you're on your own unfortunately.

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