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#993787 25-Feb-2014 05:03

Still on stock and waiting for KitKat? This might be of interest:

Update: 24/02/14: Next version 4.4.2 Kit Kat!
We're about to start testing this version
Expected public release: Mid March

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#993818 25-Feb-2014 07:57

bradstewart: Still on stock and waiting for KitKat? This might be of interest:

Update: 24/02/14: Next version 4.4.2 Kit Kat!
We're about to start testing this version
Expected public release: Mid March

About to start. WTF? Who said that?

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#993874 25-Feb-2014 09:29

merve0o0:
bradstewart: Still on stock and waiting for KitKat? This might be of interest:

Update: 24/02/14: Next version 4.4.2 Kit Kat!
We're about to start testing this version
Expected public release: Mid March

About to start. WTF? Who said that?

Optus, they're one of the carriers that use the same software version as Vodafone and Telecom. It won't release till they've all approved it.

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#993897 25-Feb-2014 09:58

bradstewart: It won't release till they've all approved it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not true. The OTA releases are done by CID (Carrier ID) - they use the same ROM base as Vodafone and Telecom, and apparently 2Degrees also, but they all have different CIDs. Unless you can point us to something that says otherwise? I'm happy to be proven wrong...

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#993904 25-Feb-2014 10:08

Boring. It's taking too long, as usual.

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#993905 25-Feb-2014 10:08

freitasm: Boring. It's taking too long, as usual.

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#994191 25-Feb-2014 15:29

markl:
bradstewart: It won't release till they've all approved it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not true. The OTA releases are done by CID (Carrier ID) - they use the same ROM base as Vodafone and Telecom, and apparently 2Degrees also, but they all have different CIDs. Unless you can point us to something that says otherwise? I'm happy to be proven wrong...

CID for all is HTC__039, there is a 2nd CID the software uses to carrier customise the software based on the SIM card or network on first boot.

I'd be happy to have it proven otherwise, but this is what I found when I pulled apart the software and firmware last year doing the review. Also OTA's for 4.2 and 4.3 have released at the exact same time for all the networks.

The OTA only checks for the HTC__039 CID and matching MID when installing as well. The OTA package is also identical and the captured url has been the same for all networks. Logging the data sent to HTC when checking for update further backs this up.

Therefore if the update was approved for release by one network, they would all get it even if others hadn't approved it.

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#994202 25-Feb-2014 15:38

bradstewart:
markl:
bradstewart: It won't release till they've all approved it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not true. The OTA releases are done by CID (Carrier ID) - they use the same ROM base as Vodafone and Telecom, and apparently 2Degrees also, but they all have different CIDs. Unless you can point us to something that says otherwise? I'm happy to be proven wrong...

CID for all is HTC__039, there is a 2nd CID the software uses to carrier customise the software based on the SIM card or network on first boot.

I'd be happy to have it proven otherwise, but this is what I found when I pulled apart the software and firmware last year doing the review. Also OTA's for 4.2 and 4.3 have released at the exact same time for all the networks.

The OTA only checks for the HTC__039 CID and matching MID when installing as well. The OTA package is also identical and the captured url has been the same for all networks. Logging the data sent to HTC when checking for update further backs this up.

Therefore if the update was approved for release by one network, they would all get it even if others hadn't approved it.

Perhaps, but then why does my handset report a CID of VODAP021? And according to plenty of sources I've read (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244106&page=11), Optus has a CID of OPTUS001, and the unbranded AU/NZ M7 phones have a CID of HTC__039.

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#994241 25-Feb-2014 16:15

markl:
bradstewart:
markl:
bradstewart: It won't release till they've all approved it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not true. The OTA releases are done by CID (Carrier ID) - they use the same ROM base as Vodafone and Telecom, and apparently 2Degrees also, but they all have different CIDs. Unless you can point us to something that says otherwise? I'm happy to be proven wrong...

CID for all is HTC__039, there is a 2nd CID the software uses to carrier customise the software based on the SIM card or network on first boot.

I'd be happy to have it proven otherwise, but this is what I found when I pulled apart the software and firmware last year doing the review. Also OTA's for 4.2 and 4.3 have released at the exact same time for all the networks.

The OTA only checks for the HTC__039 CID and matching MID when installing as well. The OTA package is also identical and the captured url has been the same for all networks. Logging the data sent to HTC when checking for update further backs this up.

Therefore if the update was approved for release by one network, they would all get it even if others hadn't approved it.

Perhaps, but then why does my handset report a CID of VODAP021? And according to plenty of sources I've read (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244106&page=11), Optus has a CID of OPTUS001, and the unbranded AU/NZ M7 phones have a CID of HTC__039.

From the build.prop: ro.aa.cidlist=OPTUS001,TELNZ001,VODAP021,HTC__039

The simcard that is in the phone on first boot OR the first sim that is inserted triggers the customisation and the CID can change based on that.

But those CID's still seem to be for customisation only. The CID of HTC__039 is still hard coded in the firmware which is what is checked when applying an OTA.

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#994247 25-Feb-2014 16:31

bradstewart:

From the build.prop: ro.aa.cidlist=OPTUS001,TELNZ001,VODAP021,HTC__039

The simcard that is in the phone on first boot OR the first sim that is inserted triggers the customisation and the CID can change based on that.

But those CID's still seem to be for customisation only. The CID of HTC__039 is still hard coded in the firmware which is what is checked when applying an OTA.

Woah....really? What an odd thing for HTC to do....so that means I could use a utility to write a different CID to my phone but it would always ignore it and look for OTA updates based on HTC__039? Thus the only way to replace the phone firmware would be via an RUU or by restoring from a NANDROID backup...

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#994263 25-Feb-2014 16:39

markl:
bradstewart:

From the build.prop: ro.aa.cidlist=OPTUS001,TELNZ001,VODAP021,HTC__039

The simcard that is in the phone on first boot OR the first sim that is inserted triggers the customisation and the CID can change based on that.

But those CID's still seem to be for customisation only. The CID of HTC__039 is still hard coded in the firmware which is what is checked when applying an OTA.

Woah....really? What an odd thing for HTC to do....so that means I could use a utility to write a different CID to my phone but it would always ignore it and look for OTA updates based on HTC__039? Thus the only way to replace the phone firmware would be via an RUU or by restoring from a NANDROID backup...

If you're S-Off you can do it with the fastboot writecid command. But you would have a mismatch between the software on your phone and the OTA you're trying to install and OTA's do not replace files. To cut down on the download size they signature check existing files and amend them.

But the method can be used to do a complete conversion to another software edition. I.E change your CID to the open European or US Dev Edition and then use the RUU files for those to install the original ROM. You would get updates for them then.

This is what I have done to do a complete conversion to a Google Play Edition.

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#994264 25-Feb-2014 16:40

bradstewart:
markl:
bradstewart:

From the build.prop: ro.aa.cidlist=OPTUS001,TELNZ001,VODAP021,HTC__039

The simcard that is in the phone on first boot OR the first sim that is inserted triggers the customisation and the CID can change based on that.

But those CID's still seem to be for customisation only. The CID of HTC__039 is still hard coded in the firmware which is what is checked when applying an OTA.

Woah....really? What an odd thing for HTC to do....so that means I could use a utility to write a different CID to my phone but it would always ignore it and look for OTA updates based on HTC__039? Thus the only way to replace the phone firmware would be via an RUU or by restoring from a NANDROID backup...

If you're S-Off you can do it with the fastboot writecid command. But you would have a mismatch between the software on your phone and the OTA you're trying to install and OTA's do not replace files. To cut down on the download size they signature check existing files and amend them.

But the method can be used to do a complete conversion to another software edition. I.E change your CID to the open European or US Dev Edition and then use the RUU files for those to install the original ROM. You would get updates for them then.

This is what I have done to do a complete conversion to a Google Play Edition.

Yup, gotcha...makes sense

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#994745 26-Feb-2014 10:57

Just received:

HTC One Scoops Global Mobile Award for Best Smartphone At MWC 2014

HTC's flagship device of 2013, the HTC One, was today presented with the Global Mobile Award for Best Smartphone, reinforcing the company's unrivalled design and innovation leadership. Voted for by a panel of more than 175 independent industry experts, drawn from the media and analyst communities, the award recognises the smartphone the judges believe to be the absolute best across the industry.

A year on from its launch in February last year, the HTC One has remained at the forefront of the mobile industry, setting the standard with innovations like HTC BlinkFeed, HTC BoomSound, UltraPixel camera and a zero-gap aluminium body, all of which have revolutionised the mobile experience for consumers across the globe.

Peter Chou, chief executive officer for HTC accepted the award commenting, "We're incredibly proud that the HTC One continues to be recognised as a game-changing smartphone, with its sleek design, superior audio and impressive functionality. Winning yet another international award for the HTC One proves that the device has taken the mobile experience to a new level and continues to set HTC apart from the competition. We're looking forward to building on this success with more incredible innovation planned for the coming months."

The HTC One previously won the Global Mobile Award for 'Best New Mobile Handset, Device or Tablet' at MWC 2013.

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#994789 26-Feb-2014 12:39

freitasm: Just received:

HTC One Scoops Global Mobile Award for Best Smartphone At MWC 2014

HTC's flagship device of 2013, the HTC One, was today presented with the Global Mobile Award for Best Smartphone, reinforcing the company's unrivalled design and innovation leadership.

Not that I need awards to vindicate my purchase (a bit like gold medal stickers on wine bottles) but, hooray! I've only had mine a couple of weeks but I love it. I just keep kicking myself for not upgrading sooner!

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#996698 28-Feb-2014 21:29

Is there actually a better Android phone (well, any smartphone really) out there? Even though its been out for so long?

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