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#1354030 29-Jul-2015 07:06

hairy1: I use a OnePlus One and love it. I was all ready for this device until I saw the 4G frequencies. It would be a backward step with no 4G. A real downer really. I wonder if it is something to do with the dual Sim....

I had a OP1 as well and was looking forward to the OP2, but it does look like (to me anyway) that they cut a few things out just to get to under $400US.
It's really not an international phone with the limited LTE bands that the chip supports. It is aimed at the US market by the looks of the bands.
Lets hope they release a real international phone that supports a lot more bands.

Till then I will just keep my z3 compact (just updated to 5.1.1 this morning) and wait for the LG's nexus 5 reboot in November.

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#1354082 29-Jul-2015 08:16

GSM Arena lists a global model with LTE band 3 so there may be hope for a LTE compatible model, no band 28 however :(

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#1354086 29-Jul-2015 08:20

Trunks2: GSM Arena lists a global model with LTE band 3 so there may be hope for a LTE compatible model, no band 28 however :(

Lets hope, the info on the 1+ site does not have this band listed.
Im hoping GSM arena is correct on a "Global" model

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#1354111 29-Jul-2015 09:00

Man after what Motorola just announced and the pricing of it, the OP2 just became a whole let less attractive.

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#1354113 29-Jul-2015 09:03

Kopkiwi: Man after what Motorola just announced and the pricing of it, the OP2 just became a whole let less attractive.

The new moto x?

Blah at a 5.7" screen :(

I miss the old days of 5" screens

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#1354128 29-Jul-2015 09:23

mrtoken:
Kopkiwi: Man after what Motorola just announced and the pricing of it, the OP2 just became a whole let less attractive.

The new moto x?

Blah at a 5.7" screen :(

I miss the old days of 5" screens

I was hoping for a more comfortable 5.2". But as a Note 4 owner that size is fine with me.

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#1354148 29-Jul-2015 09:41

Hmm, personally, I used to think that the 4.7inch is the sweetspot in terms of sizes of phones (HTC M7 was the perfect sized flagship). I would love to see the 5.2in become a sweet spot.

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#1354178 29-Jul-2015 10:11

Krishant007: Hmm, personally, I used to think that the 4.7inch is the sweetspot in terms of sizes of phones (HTC M7 was the perfect sized flagship). I would love to see the 5.2in become a sweet spot.

M7 is 5.0, not 4.7 inches...I used to think that was as big as I'd want also, I've had a Oneplus One for 4 months or so now. I had to use my old M7 again while I had an insurance claim in on my OPO, and I have to say I REALLY struggled to adjust back to the smaller screen for the couple of weeks that I was using it again!!

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#1355928 31-Jul-2015 12:10

Ok, so Oneplus just announced "whoops, we missed some of the LTE bands off the list" - but no sign of "adding" band 28, so only band used in NZ that the Two will support is band 3.

Interestingly, someone mentioned that the list of LTE bands shown on the Oneplus site was suspiciously "US" specific. That's because they are showing the specs of the US variant...when I go to their website, it defaults my location to be the USA. My guess is that because their list of locations seems to match the markets they're selling in, and NZ isn't in that list, it defaults to the US. If you change the location to, say, the UK, you see the specs for the international variant.

GSM Arena does list all connectivity support for both variants in the same place so that seems a better bet for checking up on it. They have the additional bands that Oneplus forgot to mention until this morning too, so they obviously keep their data up to date.

http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_2-6902.php

From that page, to save you the trouble of clicking if you don't want to, LTE band support is as follows:

- North America: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700)
- Global model: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)

So, who can tell me, given that band 3 is supported at least, what that might mean for us? Is there a way to check which bands are supported by which NZ networks, and what their coverage is like for each band?

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#1356085 31-Jul-2015 14:37

markl: Ok, so Oneplus just announced "whoops, we missed some of the LTE bands off the list" - but no sign of "adding" band 28, so only band used in NZ that the Two will support is band 3.

Band 7/2600MHz is used in NZ for urban in-fill as well.

Most coverage is 1800MHz on all three networks right now, but band 28/700MHz is on the rise - if you're not in an urban centre, it's best to get a device with band 28 if you intend to hang onto it for a few years. Toggle between 4G & 4G+700 here to see the difference.

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#1356107 31-Jul-2015 15:01

NikT:
markl: Ok, so Oneplus just announced "whoops, we missed some of the LTE bands off the list" - but no sign of "adding" band 28, so only band used in NZ that the Two will support is band 3.

Band 7/2600MHz is used in NZ for urban in-fill as well.

Most coverage is 1800MHz on all three networks right now, but band 28/700MHz is on the rise - if you're not in an urban centre, it's best to get a device with band 28 if you intend to hang onto it for a few years. Toggle between 4G & 4G+700 here to see the difference.

Ok thanks Nik, that's really helpful - so to confirm, the Oneplus Two WILL support LTE in New Zealand.

Side note: it's also really interesting to note that I miss out on 700Mhz coverage at home by dint of being at the wrong end of my street!! LOL

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#1356162 31-Jul-2015 16:34

markl:

Ok thanks Nik, that's really helpful - so to confirm, the Oneplus Two WILL support LTE in New Zealand.

Side note: it's also really interesting to note that I miss out on 700Mhz coverage at home by dint of being at the wrong end of my street!! LOL

Correct, 1800MHz/Band 3 is the most important box to tick for 4G in NZ right now. 700MHz will be increasingly important in the future however. Recently went on holiday to Wellsford, was the first time I'd been in an area with 700 & no 1800 - some towers have 1800/2600, some have 700/1800, & some have 700/2600. 700 is great for longer reach & in-building penetration, the higher frequencies are better for capacity.

At least the lack of NFC will mean no one asks about Semble support. :)

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#1356170 31-Jul-2015 16:47

NikT:
markl:

Ok thanks Nik, that's really helpful - so to confirm, the Oneplus Two WILL support LTE in New Zealand.

Side note: it's also really interesting to note that I miss out on 700Mhz coverage at home by dint of being at the wrong end of my street!! LOL

Correct, 1800MHz/Band 3 is the most important box to tick for 4G in NZ right now. 700MHz will be increasingly important in the future however. Recently went on holiday to Wellsford, was the first time I'd been in an area with 700 & no 1800 - some towers have 1800/2600, some have 700/1800, & some have 700/2600. 700 is great for longer reach & in-building penetration, the higher frequencies are better for capacity.

At least the lack of NFC will mean no one asks about Semble support. :)

Fantastic! First time I've seen an explanation of that aspect of 4G frequencies in plain english terms... :)

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#1360567 7-Aug-2015 10:52

No NFC is a deal breaker for me. I use NFC tags in my house and car to activate certain profiles. Also use it to top up my Snapper card.

So my next phone (upgrade from N5) might be now either the N5 2015 or the Moto X (3rd gen) though the size might be a negative for me.

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#1360593 7-Aug-2015 11:11

lchiu7: No NFC is a deal breaker for me. I use NFC tags in my house and car to activate certain profiles. Also use it to top up my Snapper card.

So my next phone (upgrade from N5) might be now either the N5 2015 or the Moto X (3rd gen) though the size might be a negative for me.

Maybe you should try the size on before making a call...the Moto X Style (I assume that's what you meant by 3rd Gen?) is only 2mm larger than the Oneplus 2 in every dimension, despite having a larger screen...

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