Help needed with ONT connection to DIR885L

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Scarpie

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#208178 30-Jan-2017 15:11

Hi there, first post in this forum.

Excuse my non-geeky questions but I brought a D Link DIR885L router thinking I could connect directly into the fibre ONT. WRONG.

What should I be doing or should I have brought a modem-router?

I still have the HG659B but wanted much better wifi coverage in home for Netflix etc. Thanks in anticipation.

Scarpie

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#1712827 30-Jan-2017 15:16

You have to configure correctly, settings depend on the ISP, either PPPoE, DHCP on WAN and WAN may be tagged. Whether the device supports VLAN tagging on WAN interface is unknown as I haven't read the manual.

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#1712828 30-Jan-2017 15:17

I'm not familiar with that specific router but a quick search indicates that it should work, at least for some ISPs. Which ISP are you using?

RunningMan

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#1712829 30-Jan-2017 15:19

Scarpie:

Excuse my non-geeky questions but I brought a D Link DIR885L router thinking I could connect directly into the fibre ONT. WRONG.

Scarpie

You're going to have to provide more info here - what do you mean by it's wrong? There's no reason why this shouldn't work on a UFB connection in NZ.

Scarpie

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#1712847 30-Jan-2017 15:38

Behodar:

I'm not familiar with that specific router but a quick search indicates that it should work, at least for some ISPs. Which ISP are you using?

ISP is Spark.

yitz

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#1712849 30-Jan-2017 15:39

Presumably the OP expected the D-Link to be 'plug and play' which by the looks of it is not.

If you go to the D-Link USA support page, it seems VLAN support was only added in a recent firmware version released late last year (1.12B05) so it is very likely you will need to upgrade the firmware.

http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DIR-885L%2FR

You may want to check the hardware version is the same before upgrading firmware.

Scarpie

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#1712853 30-Jan-2017 15:48

RunningMan:

Scarpie:

Excuse my non-geeky questions but I brought a D Link DIR885L router thinking I could connect directly into the fibre ONT. WRONG.

Scarpie

You're going to have to provide more info here - what do you mean by it's wrong? There's no reason why this shouldn't work on a UFB connection in NZ.

ISP is Spark. When connecting ONT directly to 885L router, the router lights indicating it wasn't picking up internet.

If I connect ONT-HG659B-router, then the router picks up internet as evidenced by lights and wifi signal. I actually get 4 bands so I'm guessing I have to put HG659B into bridge mode.

I am connecting ONT to router (internet input) via Ethernet cable. Is it just setup on the router needed?

hio77

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#1712855 30-Jan-2017 15:50

As others have advised you need to configure the modem correctly.

Vlan tagging is a must, as others have pointed out likely you need to upgrade the firmware first.

If you have obtained your Ultra Fibre modem elsewhere you will need to follow your modem user guide and adjust the settings to match the ones provided below for Spark Ultra Fibre.

Operating Mode : MDI/MDIX
PPP Protocol : PPPoE
PPP Username: user@spark.co.nz
PPP Password: password
PPP Auth Type : PAP
PPP Mode : Always on (Dial on Demand disabled)
Encapsulation : 802.1Q
PCP Marking : 0
VID (or VLAN) : 10
MTU : 1,500 or AUTO
Note: You may not be prompted for all values. A specific PPP Username and Password are not required, but you will not be able to connect if either field is blank.

Router should be configured as above for UFB. If you have already spoken to spark about this, i highly expect they will have forwarded you this already along with a number to call (Dlinks support in this case, for help in getting your device online)

The HG659B is actually pretty decent in terms of wifi, So i suspect what you might be wanting to actually look at is positioning your Router or a second AP for coverage.

Buying a router that states 'long range' is often little to no benefit in the real world. Often that means it simply has higher power output by default.

Clearly external antenna is sometimes a good option for wifi range, however wifi only goes as far as the device can respond. Think about your smart tv, how decent is it's wifi chipset?

I would highly advise to avoid any "Wireless Repeater" and look at a proper second AP solution if required for your household.

Last key bit of advise is, If streaming performance is the factor you really do care about for a fixed device, Run a cable if at all possible or try using a powerline alternative. Both are great options 99% of the time! (powerline not always depending on the physical power wiring in your house)

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Scarpie

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#1712857 30-Jan-2017 15:56

yitz:

Presumably the OP expected the D-Link to be 'plug and play' which by the looks of it is not.

If you go to the D-Link USA support page, it seems VLAN support was only added in a recent firmware version released late last year (1.12B05) so it is very likely you will need to upgrade the firmware.

http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DIR-885L%2FR

You may want to check the hardware version is the same before upgrading firmware.

Hoped rather than expected.

Yeah I intended to firstly update firmware and setup and thought I could connect to the internet by direct connection to the ONT in order to do this.

I can connect to internet via the HG659B to get the updates and custom setup, just trying to get my head around this.

Scarpie

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#1712861 30-Jan-2017 15:59

Thanks a lot guys for your quick and detailed replies.

hio77

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#1712862 30-Jan-2017 16:00

Scarpie:

Hoped rather than expected.

Yeah I intended to firstly update firmware and setup and thought I could connect to the internet by direct connection to the ONT in order to do this.

I can connect to internet via the HG659B to get the updates and custom setup, just trying to get my head around this.

Process will be as follows

1. Download firmware from DLINK site.

2. Connect the computer you downloaded the file on, up to the DLINK Device (it does not need to be connected to the ONT here, Ethernet is handy to use here)

3. Browse to the webui, follow the upload firmware process

4. Go through setup including the Vlan tagging as per details above and plugin to port 1 on the ONT!

5. Enjoy!

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Scarpie

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#1712880 30-Jan-2017 16:29

hio77:

Scarpie:

Hoped rather than expected.

Yeah I intended to firstly update firmware and setup and thought I could connect to the internet by direct connection to the ONT in order to do this.

I can connect to internet via the HG659B to get the updates and custom setup, just trying to get my head around this.

Process will be as follows

1. Download firmware from DLINK site.

2. Connect the computer you downloaded the file on, up to the DLINK Device (it does not need to be connected to the ONT here, Ethernet is handy to use here)

3. Browse to the webui, follow the upload firmware process

4. Go through setup including the Vlan tagging as per details above and plugin to port 1 on the ONT!

5. Enjoy!

thanks a lot Troy