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  #2436215 11-Mar-2020 10:59
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If you have a sore throat and a fever of 38.5 you shouldn't be going to work or meetings anyway......

All the usual causes of respiratory tract infections haven't gone away just because of corvid.

Currently if you hear sound of hoofs outside you window it is still more likely to be a horse not a unicorn .



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  #2436216 11-Mar-2020 11:01
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

Ok, what I quoted the three symptoms is from the MoH website. Its clear that some GP's are not playing their part if they fob you off. The catch 22 is in part caused by GP's like this who wont entertain a patients call. How much that overloads the 0800 number I'm unsure. Someone else reported in the media took an hour to get through, so one would asusme that everyone is calling them? Maybe everyone with a sniffle? Or they get fobbed off by the GP?

 

What do you suggest?

 

 

I have it from a very reliable source that the Ministry of Health are about to add a lot capacity to their 0800 service. 


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  #2436219 11-Mar-2020 11:08
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MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Ok, what I quoted the three symptoms is from the MoH website. Its clear that some GP's are not playing their part if they fob you off. The catch 22 is in part caused by GP's like this who wont entertain a patients call. How much that overloads the 0800 number I'm unsure. Someone else reported in the media took an hour to get through, so one would asusme that everyone is calling them? Maybe everyone with a sniffle? Or they get fobbed off by the GP?

 

What do you suggest?

 

 

I have it from a very reliable source that the Ministry of Health are about to add a lot capacity to their 0800 service. 

 

 

Thats good to hear. They also need to firm up the role of the GP, and what symptom levels that the GP could be called first (more general symptoms, unlikely to be Coivid-19 but could be)and what levels MoH could be called first (more direct symptoms)

 

The symptoms you listed cover a huge number of ailments. I'm sure all of us at GZ have had some of those in the last year. MoH listed just the three main ones. If we go by your list, then everyone in NZ who gets a bit crook from any number of ailments will be calling IMHO




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  #2436221 11-Mar-2020 11:09
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MikeB4:

 

I was however showing what I believe is a catch 22 and there should not be catch 22 scenarios when combating this.  She is waiting for our GP to ring her.

 

 

Currently you need to either have travelled,  or be able to demonstrate close contact with someone who has travelled to a risk country, that's why she's getting bumped from the 0800 line and told to go to the GP..

 

The GP  should not be referring her back,  but I suspect as soon as they hear the word "Corona" they say call the 0800 number..

 

 


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  #2436222 11-Mar-2020 11:10
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My wife is unwell and rang the MOH 0800 number. She found it experience absolutely pointless. They advised her to contact her GP. Our GP has on their website that if you have concerns to contact the MOH 0800 number. Classic catch 22. My wife's job involves dozens of meetings a week and meeting many people she was concerned as the has a low grade temperature around 38.5, headache and sore throat. She was not advised by the MOH to self isolate. 

 

 

maybe she doesn't meet the Covid alarm bell criteria, hence the response


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  #2436225 11-Mar-2020 11:13
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MikeB4:

 

I was however showing what I believe is a catch 22 and there should not be catch 22 scenarios when combating this.  

 

 

reminds me of trying to get warranty repairs for my malfunctioning iphone ...


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  #2436226 11-Mar-2020 11:14
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@wellygary that is why she contacted the 0800 line. As I wrote in my earlier post "My wife's job involves dozens of meetings a week and meeting many people" many of these folk travel overseas especially China and Japan.


 
 
 

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  #2436227 11-Mar-2020 11:15
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@wellygary that is why she contacted the 0800 line. As I wrote in my earlier post "My wife's job involves dozens of meetings a week and meeting many people" many of these folk travel overseas especially China and Japan.

 

 

don't kiss her


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  #2436228 11-Mar-2020 11:17
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don't kiss her

 

 

Spraying her with disinfectant is a high priority but she can move faster than me. 


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  #2436230 11-Mar-2020 11:25
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afe66: If you have a sore throat and a fever of 38.5 you shouldn't be going to work or meetings anyway......

 

 

The number of people that go to work when sick... I doubt some will change their bad habits.





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  #2436232 11-Mar-2020 11:27
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MikeB4:

 

Batman:

 

don't kiss her

 

 

Spraying her with disinfectant is a high priority but she can move faster than me. 

 

 

get one of these

 


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  #2436282 11-Mar-2020 11:39
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@freitasm  @afe66 That is why she is working from home 


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  #2436287 11-Mar-2020 11:46
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MikeB4:

 

I have it from a very reliable source that the Ministry of Health are about to add a lot capacity to their 0800 service. 

 

 

 

 

I have a nurse friend who has been working on the 0800 line since well before the coronavirus outbreak. She said when it first kicked off in January she was getting calls from hypochondriacs and racists asking questions such as "I walked past a Chinese person on the street, do I have coronavirus?" and similar nonsense. Also school teachers ringing up for advice after they had already quarantined all the Asian students in a separate classroom.


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Young people seem to be fairly resistant to covid-19 (unlike flu). 

 

But, if you are old, obese, or have hypertension, or smoke, the mortality rate is high. If you have all of these factors and catch covid-19, you have a very high chance of dying. 

 

People with kidney disease or who are reliant on chinese manufactured drugs are at risk too , because there will be shortages of medicines and drugs due to Chinese supply chain breakdowns.   This hasn't occurred yet, but , just wait. 

 

There will be no vaccine to rescue us in the near to medium term. That is click-bait. 

 

This is just the start too -- I feel the government is reacting rather than planning. 


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  #2436290 11-Mar-2020 11:49
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Self isolation means not just isolating yourself but your kids and your partner too.


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