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Topic # 161923 23-Jan-2015 12:32
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My search failed to find the other topic on this, but I came home from work yesterday and found that I had managed to get a speed camera fine during the new rules (1km over the speed limit and you get done) 

$30 for doing 4km/hr over the speed limit in a 50km/hr zone (Gordon Road, Mosgiel) on the 3rd Jan just before noon.
I still haven't seen the speed camera :-)

Slightly annoyed at getting the ticket, especially for 4km/hr over the speed, because it is really hard to stick to 50 perfectly. In order to do that, you HAVE to be going under the speed limit 
I am driving an older manual that does not have cruise and I have no idea if the speedometer I use to check my speed is "correct"  

On the other hand - only $30.
Not worth any effort to fight it

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  Reply # 1220713 23-Jan-2015 12:37
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The speed camera was probably in a van then.

On the other hand - only $30.
Not worth any effort to fight it


And that is how they make money from you... :-(




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  Reply # 1220727 23-Jan-2015 12:57
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How would you fight it? You were speeding and you got flashed pretty cut and dry.

The 10km/h leeway has always been discretionary so nothing has changed.

People need to really take some responsibility for the speed they are going and knowing how fast by more than just looking at the speedo, maybe even using their peripheral vision.

"Sorry Officer I didn't know I was doing 300km/h as I was watching the road in front" - That isn't going to fly neither will replacing 300km/h with 54km/h

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1220735 23-Jan-2015 13:10
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You're not the only one with reservations:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11385448


 

He "firmly" supported a zero-speed tolerance for "poor driving behaviour that could lead to death and injury".

 

But he also backed the 4km/h tolerance and police discretion for people travelling just over a posted speed limit. He conceded that enforcement message was jumbled in the lead-up to the holidays.

 



I'd read that as the minister supporting a 4km/h tolerance for things like speed cameras - and only zero tolerance on a case by case basis at the discretion of a police officer - i.e. they have clocked you doing over the speed limit and make a call based on other factors.  

Though, the camera that snapped you may have had a 4km/h tolerance and you were going a fraction over that...? Not sure how the rounding works on them ;-)

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  Reply # 1220737 23-Jan-2015 13:21
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I would be annoyed because they have repeatedly said they will not ticket for up to 4km over, and they have.... 

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  Reply # 1220740 23-Jan-2015 13:23
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Its called a speed limit, not a speed target, the idea is you should be under it most of the time.
I still feel somewhat sympathetic... its hard to drive along at 47kmph all the time, because of all the angst (road rage) it creates around you.

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  Reply # 1220747 23-Jan-2015 13:29
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Not PC to say it, but the number on the sign is the minimum I expect anyone in front of me to be doing. MINIMUM.








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  Reply # 1220768 23-Jan-2015 13:58
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Another "bait the sanctimonious thread" love it.

Hmm, what to write...
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  Reply # 1220772 23-Jan-2015 14:05
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Dairyxox: Its called a speed limit, not a speed target, the idea is you should be under it most of the time.
I still feel somewhat sympathetic... its hard to drive along at 47kmph all the time, because of all the angst (road rage) it creates around you.


I know the company line "it's not a target" is a nice sound bite, But... IT IS A TARGET, the sign is even shaped like one. If you can be ticketed for travelling too fast, and you can be ticketed for travelling too slow then the speed you should aim for is the target. ie the one on the sign

If you can't reach the target speed because of lack of skill, weather conditions, crap car or whatever, that's fine but get out of the way of those who wish to travel at the target speed.








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  Reply # 1220774 23-Jan-2015 14:10
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The limit is 50, you were over it.

I would probably get caught regularly over 4km/h over - I would get annoyed, then pay my fine.

Any amount of justification won't change the fact you were over the speed limit and police are well in their rights to ticket you. It has nothing to do with "skill" or "ability". 50 is the fastest you should be going.

If you choose to go faster because of "skill" or something else that is up to you - but you don't have any reason to complain for being ticketed.


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  Reply # 1220776 23-Jan-2015 14:16
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Anyone seen the new speeding advert with the speed the woman is driving written on everyone's back? I don't get it, If she had been travelling at 50 she would have hit the girl.






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  Reply # 1220780 23-Jan-2015 14:21
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mdooher: Anyone seen the new speeding advert with the speed the woman is driving written on everyone's back? I don't get it, If she had been travelling at 50 she would have hit the girl.




Thats exactly what I said when I saw it :) And a bit faster and her lunch would have made it to lunchtime as well.

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  Reply # 1220783 23-Jan-2015 14:23
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kiwitrc:
mdooher: Anyone seen the new speeding advert with the speed the woman is driving written on everyone's back? I don't get it, If she had been travelling at 50 she would have hit the girl.




Thats exactly what I said when I saw it :) And a bit faster and her lunch would have made it to lunchtime as well.


Oh and did you see her stopping distance...Outstanding!




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  Reply # 1220784 23-Jan-2015 14:25
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mdooher:
kiwitrc:
mdooher: Anyone seen the new speeding advert with the speed the woman is driving written on everyone's back? I don't get it, If she had been travelling at 50 she would have hit the girl.




Thats exactly what I said when I saw it :) And a bit faster and her lunch would have made it to lunchtime as well.


Oh and did you see her stopping distance...Outstanding!


I think thats because you don't see her hit the 20 orphans crossing the road that get wedged under car and stop her faster.

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  Reply # 1220810 23-Jan-2015 14:36
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mdooher: Anyone seen the new speeding advert with the speed the woman is driving written on everyone's back? I don't get it, If she had been travelling at 50 she would have hit the girl.




If the message was supposed to be that she could have either stopped or the impact would have been less if she was doing <=50, it got lost as soon as the victim pops up apparently undamaged & glaring at her.

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  Reply # 1220819 23-Jan-2015 14:40
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Most cars will purposely under read on the speedo anyway, so if you get a ticket for 54km/h, your speedo was likely showing around 56km/h at the time. In my car, I can read a 'true' speed via OBDII which matches very accurately with my GPS speed, but the car speedo shows exactly 2km/h less than the data I can pull from the computer. Generally tho, if you have put larger wheels on your car than your speedo is calibrated for, your true speed may be higher than indicated.

The issue do I have with such small tolerances, is that without watching the speedo constantly (and therefore taking more of your attention away from what is happening outside of the car), it is VERY easy to vary your speed by say 5km/h without noticing. Especially on a smooth road in a quiet car. In smaller/lower powered cars this may be harder, but if you drive anything with a bit of power, small speed increased as almost undetectable without watching the speedo.




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