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#3304259 2-Nov-2024 09:51

Oscar takes pole for the sprint with a McLaren front row. Max in 4th. Lawson out qualified Perez and Tsunoda. Lawson starts in 8th.

Sprint race is 3am tomorrow. Should be good to watch.

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#3304265 2-Nov-2024 10:11

Best start for Lawson.

Beating team mate is first job.
Beating Perez is crazy really.

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#3304272 2-Nov-2024 11:11

Perez did have a team issue and didn't make the line before chequered flag in SQ2 so didn't do his final flying lap.

Having said that Liam only did a single lap for both SQ2 and SQ3 so impressive. He wasn't happy with his SQ3 lap.

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#3304330 2-Nov-2024 13:19

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JPNZ: I just read he has taken it and a 5 place grid penalty for the race on Sunday (Monday NZ)

I honestly think 5 places isn't enough for a new ICE. Especially as its his second "breach". Perhaps the penalty should grow with each breach. Or make it a points penalty as that'll have teams and drivers rethinking it. Its become a tactical approach now and that should really be stopped.

Agree. Same when you get a 60 place grid penalty but it ends up only 20 places even if you got pole.

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#3304331 2-Nov-2024 13:21

Liam was excellent, Yuki seemed off colour. See how he goes against Hadjar next race....

The roundabout of who is best continues to switch between McLaren and Ferrari

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#3304358 2-Nov-2024 15:38

tdgeek:Agree. Same when you get a 60 place grid penalty but it ends up only 20 places even if you got pole.

A 60 place grid penalty must take a fair chunk of your cost cap. $10M for an ICE alone. You can lose points for exceeding the cap.

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#3304359 2-Nov-2024 15:40

tdgeek:

Liam was excellent, Yuki seemed off colour. See how he goes against Hadjar next race....

Tsunoda has the same problem Albon has currently, a teammate with real ability. Tsunoda came into Red Bull Juniors alongside Lawson in 2019. I'm sure he is acutely aware of what Lawson brings to the driving table and will no doubt be feeling a little added pressure as a result. Solid result for Lawson in Sprint Quali, he does seem to be thriving on the pressure of his situation.

Do wonder about the "team stuffed up sending me out" comment from Perez and his underwhelming Sprint Quali. Was it a mistake from the team, or deliberate? Not sure he enjoys overwhelming support from the team at the moment, especially after the work they had to do to change the tub over for him.

Drums are beating ever louder on a Colapinto move to Red Bull, and possibly the top team at that. Horner was apparently seen leaving the Williams motorhome today. The suggestion is that money-man Carlos Slim will throw his financial support behind Colapinto, ditch Perez, allowing Red Bull to do the same thing with little financial pain on the sponsorship front.

Can't believe Vowles would be entertaining this. Apparently part of the agreement to bring Colapinto into Williams F1 to begin with revolved around locking his services in for a number of seasons. A more ruthless Team Principal at Williams would enforce the contract and hold onto Colapinto into 2025 with a view to axing Albon sometime next season if he doesn't measure up to Sainz. Of course, all speculation and he might still hold onto the Argentinean for such a scenario. But, Marko coming out in the media with his comment about no team wants to train up a driver only to hand him back probably was like a red rag to a bull for Horner. Another opportunity to undermine Marko and his stable of junior drivers.

Anyway, can't say I was unhappy to see Colapinto down the grid with his Sprint Quali effort. Lawson needs to stay in front of him as much as possible, he's the main threat to where Lawson ends up in the long term I think.

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#3304362 2-Nov-2024 15:50

Bung:

tdgeek:Agree. Same when you get a 60 place grid penalty but it ends up only 20 places even if you got pole.

A 60 place grid penalty must take a fair chunk of your cost cap. $10M for an ICE alone. You can lose points for exceeding the cap.

Yeah, this. Surely it is the cost cap more than grid penalties that is the true limiting factor on teams playing fast and loose with the number of PU's they run through each season. I guess that PU number six from Honda is an improvement on PU number one from the start of the season though? Does engine development throughout the season fall under the cost cap as well, I guess it must do? Honda can't be rolling out the exact same engine to Red Bull each time they request a new one.

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#3304870 3-Nov-2024 13:02

can someone tell me what time in NZ is the Brazil GP quali?

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#3304872 3-Nov-2024 13:07

From the F1 site

4 Nov Race

04:30

3 Nov Qualifying

23:30 - 00:30

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#3304912 3-Nov-2024 15:41

Ah balls.

Tediously early start in the office, or piss-taking late start on a Monday morning.

I'm usually in by 6am but leaving home at 4am is asking a bit much.

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#3304917 3-Nov-2024 16:19

GV27:

piss-taking late start on a Monday morning.

Surely the only solution?

I work from home on Mondays specifically for the F1 and my other precious UK sports so for me it will be a 'normal Monday morning'

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#3304945 3-Nov-2024 18:35

Batman:
can someone tell me what time in NZ is the Brazil GP quali?

I’ve used this site for a while now. Might help

https://f1calendar.com/#!/timezone/Pacific-Auckland

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#3304947 3-Nov-2024 18:37

Benoire:

From the F1 site

4 Nov Race

04:30
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3 Nov Qualifying

23:30 - 00:30

Sky has QF at midnight, so allowing commentary maybe that's right? Or near enough. Can Fast Forward Sky has race at 5-55am so allow 10 minutes (I forego the pre race as its the same people saying that same thing over and over), so maybe start at 6-00am?

I WFH and am an early bird so i will suck it up and get up at 4am+

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#3304950 3-Nov-2024 18:42

Those are the times from the f1 site so don't include any commentary from the TV firms, 6am was the original race start.

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