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  #3307440 10-Nov-2024 11:01
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Donald Trump was once a registered Democrat.





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  #3307523 10-Nov-2024 15:04
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SaltyNZ:

 

Donald Trump was once a registered Democrat.

 

 

Know your enemy, and learn about his favorite sport! - Nelson Mandela

 

But then, many americans swing between parties too regularly, this is very evident in the latest election result. Also I would not buy into it too much, wasn't the person who tried to assassinate Trump a registered republican? 


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  #3307563 10-Nov-2024 18:04
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Batman: Just to show how much the Americans didn't want Democratic leadership, Trump beat Walz in Walz's home county where he grew up. 49-48%. That's quite telling I think. I mean, I read reports his family voted against him.


He's from a very rural area though, whose residents usually vote for Trump, so I wouldn't read too much into it. The urban centres (think of the Twin Cities) are where most of the voters reside and where Democrats usually do quite well.


Conversely, Trump's own niece Mary voted against him as well - you get this with every politician's family. Hell, for a long time even Jared and Ivanka were Democrats - until after Trump got elected.



Even Trump was once a Dem as was Gabbard. They say the party left them rather than the other way round. Not a small portion of former NZ Labour Party people say similar things. Parties that once made a lot of noise about workers now making a lot of noise about intersectionality, privilege and gender identity. This is a recurring theme of Bomber Bradbury over at thedailyblog

It seemed that neither USA candidate spent much time on climate.



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  #3307576 10-Nov-2024 18:53
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johno1234: Even Trump was once a Dem as was Gabbard. They say the party left them rather than the other way round.

 

Nonsense, really.

 

Trump changed his party affiliation as often as he changed his pants. Trump sometimes donated to Democrats (including Harris) while registered as a Republican. No doubt the reverse also. All very normal in USA business and politics. As usual it suits him to say whatever suits him.

 

Gabbard has always been a strange character. Hawaii has been solidly Democrat for decades. If you want to win in Hawaii - you run as a Democrat - it's that simple. Gabbard is a long time member of a wacky cult with anti-gay beliefs. Incidentally, that is why she claims membership of the Hindu religion. The leader was kicked out of Hare Krishna for fraud. Gabbard and her father (also became a Democrat congressman) deny an affiliation or claim the affiliation is ended, but it's pretty obvious the denials are very thin.


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  #3307833 11-Nov-2024 19:17
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quickymart:

 

DonH:

 

quickymart:

 

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Potential Republican candidates for 2028 (as Trump can't run again - thank Christ)...

 

 

I admire your optimism. 

 

 

The Constitution says he can't run for a third term. But yes, I'll grant you that I wouldn't put it past him to try it on for another term - he's already said he wanted to "terminate" the Constitution and make himself into a dictator. Hopefully there are enough sensible Republicans around (yeah right) to tell him in 2028 that he can't run again.

 

 

Third term sequentially or in total?


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  #3307834 11-Nov-2024 19:23
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Batman: Just to show how much the Americans didn't want Democratic leadership, Trump beat Walz in Walz's home county where he grew up. 49-48%. That's quite telling I think. I mean, I read reports his family voted against him.

 

True, but the key issue was the economy. The lower end suffers, and that been globally not nationally. Read an article today why Lations etc voted for Trump. Tax cuts. To their credit thats more important than anything else. But if tariffs come into play (another story) then tax cuts may cover the tariffs, hence no real tax cuts.


 
 
 

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  #3307917 12-Nov-2024 08:39
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This exit poll confirms that the typical MAGA voter is male, white, older, with no college degree.

 

The Republican voters had completely different voting issues from Democrats.





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  #3307929 12-Nov-2024 09:41
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So basically, the average Trump supporter is an uneducated white Gen-Xer.





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  #3307942 12-Nov-2024 09:54
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how can one trust these numbers post election when every other number they got from their "Polls" pre election were wrong?

 

ie i'd like to see the margin of error in this graphic. other than the race, the other numbers are pretty close

 

as i mentioned in the pre election polls when people post, what is the margin of error, and got shot down every time

 

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This exit poll confirms that the typical MAGA voter is male, white, older, with no college degree.

 

The Republican voters had completely different voting issues from Democrats.

 


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  #3307943 12-Nov-2024 10:06
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SaltyNZ:

 

So basically, the average Trump supporter is an uneducated white Gen-Xer.

 

 

apparently the difference could be explained by wokeness according to the guardian, i think they didn't like what Justin Trudeau was doing with Canada

 

Meanwhile, the widening political gap based around people’s education levels – voters without college degrees supported Trump by a 14-point margin, while Harris had a 13-point advantage among college-educated people – creates yet more problems. Some of them are to do with “wokeness” and its drawbacks. Because the cutting edge of left politics is often associated with institutions of higher education, ideas that are meant to be about inclusivity can easily turn into the opposite.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-the-left-social-media-rightwing-propaganda-progressives-woke

 

here's another CBS report on similar theme https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/republican-massachusetts-voters-donald-trump/

 

 


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  #3307945 12-Nov-2024 10:14
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The Guardian - Trump demands Senate allow him to circumvent hearings to appoint cabinet

 

11 Nov 2024

 


Donald Trump has demanded that the three frontrunners to lead the Senate allow him to appoint officials to his new administration without confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill, as a future Republican government began to take shape the week after his election victory.

 

In a demonstration of his political muscle, the US president-elect urged support for “recess appointments”, which allow the president to make appointments while the Senate is temporarily paused, and can be used to circumvent the confirmation process, which can result in appointments being delayed or blocked.

 

The demand amounted to a full-frontal intervention in this week’s GOP’s election for a new Senate leader to replace Mitch McConnell, the party’s longtime leader who is retiring.

 

 

Full dictator mode. Bypass the Senate. The shape of things to come.  🙄

 

 

 

 





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  #3308120 12-Nov-2024 14:27
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I'm not sure Trump needs to bypass the Senate.
Trumplican MAGA presence there is probably stronger, and maybe more convert to the true religion too.
In two years many come up for another vote and with Trump winning like never before? 
You don't need Trump and Elon campaigning against your re-election.
Get a new Moses like Mike Johnson as majority leader of Senate and its slam dunk.


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  #3308121 12-Nov-2024 14:27
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Jen Psaki:

 

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/harris-lost-trump-what-happens-next-rcna179623

 

"I look at this from my vantage point as a college-educated white person, which is one of the only demographics Trump didn’t increase his share of the vote with, and I can tell you that the message of the party is geared too much toward me."


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  #3308131 12-Nov-2024 14:59
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I'm not sure Trump needs to bypass the Senate.

 

 

 

 

But if he could, he would. He doesn't want to have to wait for some other pleb to rubber stamp his demands. It should just happen. Immediately.





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  #3308142 12-Nov-2024 15:28
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SaltyNZ: ... He doesn't want to have to wait for some other pleb to rubber stamp his demands. It should just happen. Immediately.

 

 

This is perfectly logical from the perspective of a dementing disinhibited Narcissist in a position of almost unlimited power. 

 

He wants it all, and he wants it now.  👺





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