What is Vodafone stance on people selling cellphone blocking technology?

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DataCraft

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#37663 16-Jul-2009 18:48

I know blocking cellphones is illegal in NZ but does Vodafone or Telecom ever prosecute people for selling such items? Or do they just turn a blind eye to it all?

For example check out this item on trademe

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#236228 16-Jul-2009 19:34

It's illegal?

The government just installed...

wait, thats the Govt, rules don't apply.

But they did just install new cellphone jamming equipment into the prisons just recently,

Thats kind of like a limbo if cellphone jamming is illegal, because that then means they're doing something illegal to stop illegal things. haha.

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#236234 16-Jul-2009 19:41

Yes any device that causes interference on any mobile network the carriers will come down on like a ton of bricks

Mobile carriers use a licensed band

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#236235 16-Jul-2009 19:43

johnr: Yes any device that causes interference on any mobile network the carriers will come down on like a ton of bricks

Mobile carriers use a licensed band

John

Is that for anywhere though?

like say I wanted to just block coverage on my section (and in theory, it would only be my section) would that still be illegal?

Or is it just any interference what-so-ever?

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#236238 16-Jul-2009 19:49

Any interference full stop

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#236265 16-Jul-2009 20:49

I find it hard to believe they have any right to tell you what you can do on your own property. Assuming it didn't affect your neighbors, I would tell them to take a hike.

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#236268 16-Jul-2009 20:58

MikeGayner: I find it hard to believe they have any right to tell you what you can do on your own property. Assuming it didn't affect your neighbors, I would tell them to take a hike.

A licensed radio frequency is not your property.

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#236286 16-Jul-2009 22:10

The radio frequency is not your property.

The MED assigns frequencies to licensees - no one else has rights to use or interfere with that frequency.

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#236304 16-Jul-2009 23:04

You can block cellphone signals for a specific area you own yourself if you really want.
Good way to start - build a bunker.
line it with metal, ground the metal.. (I think that would be the right thing to do)
keep adding layers until there is no signal.
There - you have blocked the cellphone signals.

Other options, no - not legal to use, maybe even possess.

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#236305 16-Jul-2009 23:04

MikeGayner: I find it hard to believe they have any right to tell you what you can do on your own property. Assuming it didn't affect your neighbors, I would tell them to take a hike.

As pointed out you do not own the frequency, nor the right to interfere with it anywhere.

By your logic, you might say you are allowed to cook P on your property, because 'they' don't have any right to tell you what you can do on your own property.

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#236310 16-Jul-2009 23:27

DataCraft: I know blocking cellphones is illegal in NZ but does Vodafone or Telecom ever prosecute people for selling such items? Or do they just turn a blind eye to it all?

For example check out this item on trademe

I'm guessing it's not illegal to own this device, just illegal to actually switch it on which is probably how they are able to put it on trademe. Check tomorrow to see if the auctions been pulled.

As others have said it's licensed spectrum companies pay millions of dollars to purchase, I wouldn't like to be the guy holding one of these things where the RF engineers come looking for that interference...

I wouldn't even like to be your lawyer when they come knocking.

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#236311 16-Jul-2009 23:33

Only active jamming would be an issue. If you choose to construct a farday cage on your property then assuming it is compliant with any other legislation it is well within your rights to do so.

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#236314 16-Jul-2009 23:41

exportgoldman:
DataCraft: I know blocking cellphones is illegal in NZ but does Vodafone or Telecom ever prosecute people for selling such items? Or do they just turn a blind eye to it all?

For example check out this item on trademe

I'm guessing it's not illegal to own this device, just illegal to actually switch it on which is probably how they are able to put it on trademe. Check tomorrow to see if the auctions been pulled.

As others have said it's licensed spectrum companies pay millions of dollars to purchase, I wouldn't like to be the guy holding one of these things where the RF engineers come looking for that interference...

I wouldn't even like to be your lawyer when they come knocking.

listing was withdrawn from trademe by the administrator

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#236315 16-Jul-2009 23:46

Fraktul: Only active jamming would be an issue. If you choose to construct a farday cage on your property then assuming it is compliant with any other legislation it is well within your rights to do so.

Or as another example, if you were to build a new mobile network without correctly installing filters.

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#236316 16-Jul-2009 23:46

exportgoldman:
Fraktul: Only active jamming would be an issue. If you choose to construct a farday cage on your property then assuming it is compliant with any other legislation it is well within your rights to do so.

Or as another example, if you were to build a new mobile network without correctly installing filters.

LOL!

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#236341 17-Jul-2009 08:02

exportgoldman:
Fraktul: Only active jamming would be an issue. If you choose to construct a farday cage on your property then assuming it is compliant with any other legislation it is well within your rights to do so.

Or as another example, if you were to build a new mobile network without correctly installing filters.

A giant mobile jamming network?

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