Wow. Lights off on the Eiffel Tower for the first time since 1889. pic.twitter.com/ZkeU5GmJfM

 

— Scary PJJ 2016 (@ProfJeffJarvis) November 14, 2015

Bobdn: I thought this was an interesting article.  How sad, as the writer points out, that "Paris is under curfew for the first time since the German occupation".  Hard to believe. 

http://www.steynonline.com/7293/the-barbarians-are-inside-and-there-are-no-gates

sir1963:

DaveB:

DizzyD: 


..... This very thread is all about gun nuts .....

Having started this thread, can I please suggest that you are incorrect? It is not about "gun nuts". It was a sympathetic statement about the awful events in Paris followed by a simple question "What will Europe look like in another 10 years time?". 

Statistics about gun laws and religious fervour are not the issues here (or at the most, quite minor compared to the real issues). 

Having left the UK 40 years ago, (but returning every two years to visit family), it saddens me to witness the continuing decline throughout Europe and the increasing racial hatred from good middle class people who are seeing their countries being changed before their very eyes. One has to ask why this is? 

What is actually turning people against each other now in such a way that even multi generation Europeans feel that they do not belong or fit into their own country?

1. Relaxed and often uncontrolled immigration policies.
2. Wide open borders.
3. Law-enforced political correctness.
4. Freedom for hate preachers.
5. Human rights lawyers and activists, blindly supporting those who have done, and continue, to do wrong.

It's all very well and idealistic to have these policies and in some cases impossible to undo. Surely the question has to be "How do you make immigrants fit in"? Many have been raised with anti western ideologies and seek to change their new country's way of life. Many fit in and enjoy their new homes, only to see their children turn against their way of life for some new ideology that does not make sense to us westerners. They feel like outcasts and the question has to be "why" and "what can we do about it"?

How do you allow multi generational Europeans to hang onto their heritage and not feel that it is being stripped away from them? 

So, Europe in another 10 years time? It certainly wont be a relaxed multicultural society. It will be divided like nothing we have ever seen, like Belfast many years ago. But on a much larger scale.

And exactly how are you any different from "Them".
Modern Europeans would not feel at home in the Europe of 200 years ago ether.

Was having black slaves OK ?
How about women being classed as property ?
What about marital rape ?
Public floggings/hangings for trivial crimes ?
Child work houses ?

Perhaps you want to look at how the early settlers into the USA chose to conform to the local culture, they chose the gun then too, as they did when arriving in any other culture.

Maybe all but Native Americans should be forced back to their home countries of England, Germany, France, Holland, Spain, Italy etc etc too, so they can go back to the culture they had for centuries.

Maybe you want to look at which countries are supplying the guns, the bombs, the missiles into the middle east, or how these same countries wilfully ignore human rights and the laws of their own countries so they can torture prisoners.

Western news certainly does not report an unbiased point of view, it ignores most of the violence, and hypes up anything they can sell to the public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents%2C_2015

How many of them did you hear about ?

Where was the option of bombing the hell out of Russia when they helped shoot down an civilian plane ?

freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.

DaveB:

freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.

I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!

tdgeek:

DaveB:

freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.

I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!

Perhaps this thread can discuss how to eradicate ISIS? Difficult yes, what we say wont be taken into consideration, but a very very difficult question. Well worth brainstorming.

freitasm: First, Donald Trump is someone who shouldn't be taken seriously, but I am afraid he is.

Second, gun nuts have a hammer, and everything is a nail.

And they're wrong.

tdgeek:

DaveB:

freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.

I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!

Perhaps this thread can discuss how to eradicate ISIS? Difficult yes, what we say wont be taken into consideration, but a very very difficult question. Well worth brainstorming.

MikeB4:

freitasm: First, Donald Trump is someone who shouldn't be taken seriously, but I am afraid he is.

Second, gun nuts have a hammer, and everything is a nail.

And they're wrong.

Just imagine the nightmare of Trump in the White House

JWR: The last president of the United States!

Possibly the end of civilization as well.