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#1032964 29-Apr-2014 07:24

TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

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#1032975 29-Apr-2014 08:16

TimA: We have a 46Ft Power Cat. (Game fishing boat)
Go fishing all the time. (Cough cough i hate fishing. I always get sick)
This is the boat
here are some Malin some kids caught from Tutukaka on Saturday.

If you like fishing and are in Whangarei maybe ill take the boat out
(The boat is dads)

Pretty sure I can arrange a trip to Whangarei ;) Nice boat :)

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#1032982 29-Apr-2014 08:34

networkn:
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KiwiNZ: Key to filleting I found was to do it as soon as possible (not on the beach or boat as the Fishery inspectors get grumpy as they can fully determine length), have a good set of dedicated knifes that are used for no other purpose. I also wore a mesh glove as I am a clutz .

The mesh glove and very sharp dedicated filleting knife are both essential.

I shall Procure both immediately, though I have no fish to fillet nor any idea when I will :)

One thing I found interesting, everyone on the boat catching kawhaii was bleeding them, but when I caught mine the skipper came over and told me not to bother as in 35 years of catching and eating Kawaii he had never noticed a difference when the fish was prepared fresh. Interesting I took my fish to a friends place that night who cooked it on the BBQ and he swore by bleeding, but then admitted he had never tried it without and when I told him afterward it wasn't bled he decided he will no longer bother either since he couldn't tell any difference.

I wanted to catch Trevally so badly but my fisher skills were ruined by sea sickness.

Back in the day I used to go Kahawai surfcastoing at the Waimakariri mouth outside ChCh. They were black through the waves, cast out, BANG, great sport. Thread them thru gills onto a nylon rope with a stick at the end, would often get 15 to 20. Infrequently at the low tide they would still be there if their small fish were still there, brushing your legs as they swam around still feeding

Maoris swore by bleeding, and steaming with the fish wrapped in cabbage, nice

My nana used to tell me about whitebating way back in the day. The women all took off their stockings and scooped them up. 44 gallon drums filled. Now, if you got 100gm your likely to be happy

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#1032984 29-Apr-2014 08:37

I found this to be a lot of fun, using a Fly Fishing Rod and Barb less hocks and fish for Kahawai. I used to do catch and release with them, remember though when releasing handle the fish with a wet towel and don't touch the gills and place back in the water don't drop.

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#1032994 29-Apr-2014 09:06

I have an electric kontiki (actually its a Kentiki, made by a local Whanganui guy www.kentiki.co.nz) and I head out on the Whanganui beaches with it. Very low maintenance, sometimes you barely need to get wet at all LOL Sends 25 hooks out up to about 1.5km offshore. Usually get good hauls of gurnard (my personal favourite) and snapper along with kahawai and once even a John Dory. Have a Hilux and mount the electric winch on the front, have LEDs on the truck so can light up the beach and work it at night (when the big snapper are around). Had a poor summer's fishing this year as water temp never got to previous summer's heights, a bit to the north in Waitotara, Patea and the like they were getting good hauls.

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#1033008 29-Apr-2014 09:41

clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

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#1033011 29-Apr-2014 09:50

TimA:
clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

Definitely 75cm for a Kingi. That is in the Auckland fishery - may be different in other areas?

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

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#1033012 29-Apr-2014 09:54

trig42:
TimA:
clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

Definitely 75cm for a Kingi. That is in the Auckland fishery - may be different in other areas?

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

We cant use soft baits to save ourselves unless we are catching kahawai. Usually get chunks of Kahawai and put it in a bucket with tonnes of salt. Let it brew for a few weeks and its the best bait you can get.

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#1033016 29-Apr-2014 10:01

If you are going out quite deep (like more than about 30-40m, then Softbaits get difficult to use IMO. They are on very light line, with generally only 1/2 and ounce of lead at the end - getting to the bottom would be quite difficult (hence why you are getting Kahawai - they are not on the bottom).

Salted Kahawai is a good bait. Snapper love Pilchards too, but one bit and bait is gone usually (so if you muck around getting to the bottom, or getting tension on your line, you may miss the bait being stolen).

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#1033020 29-Apr-2014 10:24

trig42:
TimA:
clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

Definitely 75cm for a Kingi. That is in the Auckland fishery - may be different in other areas?

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

Those look kinda big, wouldn't they only then appeal to much larger fish (sorry if this is a dumb question).

What kind of fishing are softbaits suitable for ?

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#1033028 29-Apr-2014 10:25

trig42:

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

Picked up couple of good snapper using softbaits over the Xmas break near Tiritiri Matangi (80ft of water) , but since then been nothing.... but been some great looking fish turning up on the FB fishing group I run for Whangaparaoa, all caught by kayak fisherman :)
Need to get kayak... is on the list for this year.

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#1033029 29-Apr-2014 10:26

xpd:
trig42:

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

Picked up couple of good snapper using softbaits over the Xmas break near Tiritiri Matangi (80ft of water) , but since then been nothing.... but been some great looking fish turning up on the FB fishing group I run for Whangaparaoa, all caught by kayak fisherman :)
Need to get kayak... is on the list for this year.

heh I like the idea, but I would need to be a MUCH better swimmer than I am now to risk going more than 100m off shore in a Kayak.

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#1033033 29-Apr-2014 10:31

networkn:
trig42:
TimA:
clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

Definitely 75cm for a Kingi. That is in the Auckland fishery - may be different in other areas?

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

Those look kinda big, wouldn't they only then appeal to much larger fish (sorry if this is a dumb question).

What kind of fishing are softbaits suitable for ?

They would be about 4-5 inches long, you thread them onto the Jig head so the hook comes out about halfway along the 'body'. When in the water (use them when drifting) it looks like they are swimming. They are kept in a solution them makes them attractive to the fish. On a good day, you can get away with only using one or two softbaits to catch your bag.

EDIT: sorry, suitable for most fish - I have mainly only caught snapper on them, but have had Kahawai and Yellowtails too. I suppose a lazy Kingi might grab one if it went past them. Kingis are pretty smart though, and landing a legal one on a softbait rig would be fun.

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#1033034 29-Apr-2014 10:32

trig42:
networkn:
trig42:
TimA:
clevedon:
TimA: Find a buoy and do "jigging" next to that. Guarantee there is a Kingi there. They put up a hell of a fight. 65CM is minimum size.

Minimum size for Kingfish is 75cm and three per person per day.

My old fish ruler thing has 65 on it. But then it also says 30 for snapper and not 27

Definitely 75cm for a Kingi. That is in the Auckland fishery - may be different in other areas?

I like softbaiting for Snapper, but this year in the Gulf has been pretty awful, the water has not really warmed up. People are getting good snapper at the moment, and over Easter when I was at the bach on the western side of the Coromandel I went out and easily got a feed of Snapper on Softbait.

Nuclear Chicken softbaits FTW - nice not having to handle smelly baits, and softbaiting on lighter gear with Braid instead of Nylon makes it quite fun.

Those look kinda big, wouldn't they only then appeal to much larger fish (sorry if this is a dumb question).

What kind of fishing are softbaits suitable for ?

They would be about 4-5 inches long, you thread them onto the Jig head so the hook comes out about halfway along the 'body'. When in the water (use them when drifting) it looks like they are swimming. They are kept in a solution them makes them attractive to the fish. On a good day, you can get away with only using one or two softbaits to catch your bag.

Heh I need to read up on my fishing terms, jig head etc. Usually we get in a boat and go to a place and drop the lines over the side and wait, I presume that isn't drifting? Are you talking about not dropping all the way to the bottom?

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#1033040 29-Apr-2014 10:40

No, drifting is just where you don't use an anchor. Sometimes (especially in smaller boats) you use a Drogue (or sea anchor) to slow your drift down.

A jig head is basically a hook with a bit of lead shaped like a fishes head at the 'eye' end of the hook - you thread the softbait onto it so it looks like a bait fish.

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