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LittleGreyCat
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  #421837 27-Dec-2010 11:54
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The crucial bit is the choice of the tent.

As already stated you need to decide what kind of camping you want to do, and how much space you have to carry stuff.

You also need to decide how long you are going to stop in one place.

If you want to rush into the bush, or stop at DOC sites for one night, you need to be minimalist and concentrate on a tent which is quick to set up and take down and packs down small.

If you + wife + kids fill the car up then you have to make sure that all you need will fit in the boot - or buy a roof rack (unless you have or can borrow a trailer).

If you want to spend the main holiday at one nice site with loads of other kids for company and play facilities, kitchen, showers etc. then the most important thing is a robust tent with plenty of space.

There is nothing worse than being crammed into a small tent during bad weather with a bored family.

We are spending 4 months camping as we travel round NZ so we have gone for comfort rather than minimalism.

We have a big canvas tent - two rooms plus a shaded area out front as big as one of the rooms - and the head height throughout most of the tent is well above 6 feet which makes a lot of difference if you are spending a load of time in the tent.

We fill our Toyota Camry up to the level of the back seat rests, but then we have two large cases with all our worldly goods to fit in and these take up most of the boot. Without them we would probavbly be able to get most of the stuff in the boot.

You should be able to get away with just buying a tent and air beds if your home is well equiped. Virtually ecerything that we have would be found in our home (but of course carrying it round the world on aircraft is not an option).

Duvets work fine on air beds - one under you, one on top - so if you already have those you don't need to buy them.

Most people have a torch at home, plates, cooking utensils etc.
Camp tables and camp chairs are a good buy (if you don't already have some).
A cooker is fine, but not essential if you are happy to cook in the communal kitchen.
We have two single burner stoves which come in plastic cases and use small cartridges.
Cool box is essential, plus the freezer blocks to keep it cool, assuming you will be near a freezer.
If not, one of the fisherman style which take ice and have a drain at the bottom would probably be better.
A 12V/240V cool box fridge would be luxury (we have one at home and I miss it) but it costs more than a chilly bin.
If you want true comfort, buy a power lead with built in circuit breaker and then all the electric things you have at home can come with you.
Apart from lights and power for the PC and mobile phones, we also have a fan heater which is very nice when the evening temprerature drops into single figures. The electric kettle is also good.

So - enough of this rambling.
If you want to be highly mobile spend your money on specialist gear - lightweight tent, camping stove, pots and pans, sleeping bags, waterproofs etc.

If you want to stay on a site with good facilities for an extended period then spend your money on a big (I say BIG) tent which you can treat as a temporary home and you will probably find that all the things you already have (clothes, cooking, bedding, waterproofs etc.) will do fine.

We started out looking at tents for $200 and ended up buying a tent in the sales (last year's model listed at $2,500 new) for $1,500.
So far this seems to be working very well.
The main gain over small tents (apart from being able to sit inside in a chair and stand up inside) is the large covered area outside.

Hope this helps.
LGC



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  #422125 28-Dec-2010 14:45
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Air Mattress(es) + Pump - you can use those blue foam mattresses from the warehouse if you are roughing it, but I am sure the wife would prefer an air mattress


Have just come home from a few days camping in Hanmer. The misses (whose a professional sleeper) loved the air mattress, I hated the dam thing. Hard to get comfortable, one movement and you bounced around, sticky when you sweat, not stable in the wind. We had such bad wind and rain last night that we abounded the tent and went and slept on the floor in the lounge of the holiday home her family was in. Fun Times..... Undecided

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  #422133 28-Dec-2010 15:20
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I can't believe no one has mentioned anything about the type of power lead you need if you want power at most typical camping grounds!

Basically you'll need a three prong caravan-type power lead, like these:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=337180064






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  #422138 28-Dec-2010 15:30
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I would say you need an umbrella by the looks of things




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LittleGreyCat
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  #422143 28-Dec-2010 15:42
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redjet: I can't believe no one has?mentioned?anything about the type of power lead you need if you want power at most typical camping grounds!

Basically you'll need a three prong caravan-type power lead, like these:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=337180064




"If you want true comfort, buy a power lead with built in circuit breaker and then all the electric things you have at home can come with you. "

There is even a thread further back discussing the disgraceful price of these and how to make up your own for much less money.

Cheers

LGC

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  #422155 28-Dec-2010 16:31
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As a sound technician who works outdoors a lot, I cannot stress the importance of the RCD built into these caravan cables. It is a huge life saver, as if the cable shorts out on your tent or in some water it will cut off the power, and avoid electrocution. DON'T GET A CABLE WITHOUT ONE!!!!





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  #422301 29-Dec-2010 01:10
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How are your camping plans going? I dug up my list from a couple years back and updated it to be stupidly detailed ? hope to decide what cant fit in the car closer to the day.

Its mostly oriented to DOC/council campsites without family to think about, but can adapt for other types of camping. The shovel is for the next time a possum finds my breakfast cereal at 3am, and the idea of a frozen drink is to have it cold a couple of days later in the chilly bin. Actually the food goes in a plastic storage box now, which is handy too.

☺ CAMPING LIST ☺

Preparations:
□ freeze a drink bottle
□ freeze the ice packs
□ put juice/drink in fridge
□ clear camera's memory
□ update mp3 player music
□ charge cell phone
□ charge camera/torch batteries etc
□ tent repairs
□ replace missing pegs, ropes etc

Replacement check:
□ batteries + spare for torches
□ water bottle
□ extra water for basic campsite
□ first aid items in kit
□ enough cooking gas or spare

Personal etc:
□ summer clothing
□ sleepware
□ bath or sport towel
□ soap & shampoo
□ toothpaste & brush
□ panadol/vitamins
□ medicine (eg bee stings, asthma)
□ sunhat & long sleeved shirt
□ jacket to suit season
□ sunblock
□ camera
□ jandals

Activities:
□ beach bag
□ swim shorts etc
□ beach towel
□ beach umbrella
□ tramping boots/socks
□ day pack, compass, map of tracks
□ iced water in thermos
□ book to read!


Camping items:
□ tent/s
□ tent repair kit/duct tape
□ oversize pegs @ sandy campsites
□ air bed + fitted sheet + extra flat sheet
□ pump for airbed
□ torch + spare
□ hanging lantern
□ camp chairs
□ camping table
□ BBQ tool, cleaner
□ solar shower/s
□ backpacking shovel
□ rubbish bags
□ shade tarp, tent floor
□ spare rope & pegs
□ clothes line
□ cooker + gas bottle/s
□ toilet paper
□ map of park area & activities

kitchen items:
□ chilly bin & frozen icepack/drink
□ can opener
□ eating bowls etc
□ dishwash + bucket
□ spoons, knives, forks
□ ladle/spoon & sharp knife
□ drinking cups
□ cooking pots
□ frypan or BBQ
□ whistling kettle
□ tea towel
□ paper towels or cleaning cloth

Food/Drink:
□ juice
□ beer cans
□ meal packs
□ BBQ food
□ salt, oil, spices
□ sugar, tea, coffee
□ canned food (for lazy days)
□ breakfast cereals
□ milk powder or UHT
□ bread, spreads, margarine
□ nibbles/scroggin

Travel items:
□ pillows or pillowcase for jacket
□ sleeping bag or duvet
□ car music, control panel
□ mobile + car battery charger
□ insect repellant
□ first aid kit
□ after-sun aloe gel




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  #422327 29-Dec-2010 08:50
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wow that is detailed.

My plans are about where they were when I started. Stymied.

Xmas will do that to ya I guess.

But thanks for the info. I have a lot to think about now.




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