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  #2437812 14-Mar-2020 07:39
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Driving me absolutely bonkers are Wellington builders.

I have some small jobs around the house. I've learned that took get one builder to show up, you need to call 10, preferable 20.

This time around I heard one builder was booked for two years, another wouldn't touch a job for less than $150,000. One wouldn't do anything that involve structural, plumbing or electrical work; he do me a huge favor by sending a junior builder but only if if when he wasn't busy.

Sigh...

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  #2437816 14-Mar-2020 08:20
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freitasm:

 

People writing "boarders" when they clearly meant "borders".

 

 

In a World going nuts does correct spelling and or grammar of one of its languages really matter? 


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  #2437820 14-Mar-2020 08:45
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MikeB4:

 

freitasm:

 

People writing "boarders" when they clearly meant "borders".

 

 

In a World going nuts does correct spelling and or grammar of one of its languages really matter? 

 

 

if you are lazy about spelling and grammar, you are lazy. Lazy people spread viruses.

 

so yes, it matters.


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  #2437821 14-Mar-2020 08:51
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BlinkyBill:

 

 

 

if you are lazy about spelling and grammar, you are lazy. Lazy people spread viruses.

 

so yes, it matters.

 

 

So people with learning disabilities, those where English is a second language are lazy? Those who write a brief note on a forum in a small country and make a mistake are lazy and spread viruses? Give me a break.

 

Note, you were incorrect in your statement you didn't start your sentence with a capital and also your second sentence is not started with a capital.

 

 


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  #2437827 14-Mar-2020 09:05
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In my old age my typos and misspellings have become really bad, so I use an old copy of Word to filter my longer texts. There are tools that can be used by people with disabilities and imperfect language skills if they think it is important enough. Many people don't. I do.

 

 





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  #2437828 14-Mar-2020 09:07
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MikeB4:

 

BlinkyBill:

 

 

 

if you are lazy about spelling and grammar, you are lazy. Lazy people spread viruses.

 

so yes, it matters.

 

 

So people with learning disabilities, those where English is a second language are lazy? Those who write a brief note on a forum in a small country and make a mistake are lazy and spread viruses? Give me a break.

 

Note, you were incorrect in your statement you didn't start your sentence with a capital and also your second sentence is not started with a capital.

 

 

 

 

There is a discernible difference between a learning difficulty or language unfamiliarity, and lazy spelling and grammar. Also, if you correct someone’s grammar, you should correct it using correct grammar!


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  #2437870 14-Mar-2020 10:59
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kingdragonfly: Driving me absolutely bonkers are Wellington builders.
I have some small jobs around the house. I've learned that took get one builder to show up, you need to call 10, preferable 20.
This time around I heard one builder was booked for two years, another wouldn't touch a job for less than $150,000. One wouldn't do anything that involve structural, plumbing or electrical work; he do me a huge favor by sending a junior builder but only if if when he wasn't busy.
Sigh...

 

NOT just Wellington! I feel your pain.

 

Luckily we got someone excellent in the end. 

 

(Can highly recommend a Christchurch one - sorry not in Wellington)


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  #2437874 14-Mar-2020 11:17
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@MikeB4:

 

freitasm:

 

People writing "boarders" when they clearly meant "borders".

 

 

In a World going nuts does correct spelling and or grammar of one of its languages really matter? 

 

 

The topic is "something small that really annoys you" and this is one thing. If it annoys me and it's not impacting someone else's live I think I have the right to put it here - same right everyone else has to think there are other things to be annoyed with.

 

Add to this people in tech that write "on-premise" instead of "on-premises". A lot of people will justify saying English is fluid and other people understand what they are talking about. But premise and premises are still two different things.

 

Everyone is different.





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  #2437881 14-Mar-2020 11:33
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MikeB4:

freitasm:


People writing "boarders" when they clearly meant "borders".



In a World going nuts does correct spelling and or grammar of one of its languages really matter? 



Of course it does. The two things are not connected.





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  #2437884 14-Mar-2020 11:42
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There is an etymological defence for on-premise. Premises, referring to land and buildings, has no adjective form and is generally used as a plural (the land and buildings on the land). It is probably technically correct to use on-premise (hyphenated) to refer to the singular, and on-premises (hyphenated) to refer to the plural, land and building(s).

 

it’s an interesting one.


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  #2437937 14-Mar-2020 13:43
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People referring to our Prime Minister as Jacinda.  Sure it's her name, but it's also an office that should be respected regardless of political leanings, and she should be referred to as Prime Minister.  Seems to be far more prevalent a thing than when there were men in that position.  


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  #2437946 14-Mar-2020 13:58
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Somewhere in this thread is a complaint about people saying 'Mr English' instead of 'Bill'.


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  #2437961 14-Mar-2020 14:51
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gehenna:

 

People referring to our Prime Minister as Jacinda. 

 

 

I think it's a good thing about NZ that we can and do refer to our politicians by their first names. It's a comfortable egalitarian informality, unlike the stuffy Edwardian etiquette that we inherited a century ago. Jack's as good as his master.

 

 


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  #2438007 14-Mar-2020 15:17
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frankv:

 

gehenna:

 

People referring to our Prime Minister as Jacinda. 

 

 

I think it's a good thing about NZ that we can and do refer to our politicians by their first names. It's a comfortable egalitarian informality, unlike the stuffy Edwardian etiquette that we inherited a century ago. Jack's as good as his master.

 

 

 

 

Depends on how it is done. If used in an overly-familiar way to diminish her status and make her seem like a child ("Cindy, anyone?"), then it is insulting and unacceptable. If used neutrally, as if it is just her name, then I don't have a problem with it. But it becomes harder to enforce than just a simple "don't do". I usually refer to her by her full name, infrequently just her last name, as is not uncommon with male leaders.

 

 

 

   





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  #2438039 14-Mar-2020 16:05
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In here she is either Jacinda Ardern or Prime Minister.





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